ill think ill get a sk8 kings deck with krux/destructo/tensors that fit well thanks!

and at this i asked them if the had offset wheels and they said ya sorta of like longboard wheels is that correct?

ill think ill get a sk8 kings deck with krux/destructo/tensors that fit well thanks!

and at this i asked them if the had offset wheels and they said ya sorta of like longboard wheels is that correct?

yeah kinda, longboard wheels tend to be pretty big and what ive seen to be offset. Is this a shop our buying these wheels from ? if so have a look at them and see if they fit.

If you want a good wheel for street and freestyle I would recomend the harder Sk8 Kings Crown Jewels or the Renna flatland wheels from Decomposed.

^^oh thank u

and about buying from the shop im thinking too but idk on how it would work

your shop carries freestyle equipment??

lucky..!

i wish all they have freestylish are these werid offset wheels that are long boarding wheels and i dont know if they will work

The only way to tell is to set it up on your board. My guess would be they wont work, but you should try it out.

they said id need risers

Who said that? Your local skateshop will most likely not know ANYTHING about freestyle, just look info up on the internet.

And for the love of god, type properly please?

~Necro

i thought i typed well but ill have to guess again lol.

one last question for now i have this almost 7.75 but i find it alittle long should i shave it down? im sorry if the question seems stupid

Shave it down if you know what you're doing. If you don't, then definitely do not shave it down. And considering 7.75 had to do with width, not length, I'd recommend not bringing a power saw or sander anywhere near your board. Just do lots of 50-50 tricks and your deck will wear itself down.

~Necro

gotch u thanks! and how big trucks should i get to match with a 7.5? if that makes any sence

^^ it all depends on what wheels your going to get also, The Rennas from Decomposed you can use on trucks that are already inline with the board and it will still remain perficlty offset. Other wheels your going to need trucks that are a couple of mm's smaller then the deck. Dont forget Washes can be added or taken away too.

which wheels can be used for street and freestyle but not that expensize

sorry for the questions

which wheels can be used for street and freestyle but not that expensize

sorry for the questions

no need to apoligies bro.

The Burely Keith Renna wheels from Decomposed are percit for steet and freestyle. They feel just like a centre set wheel but have all the features of a Offset wheel, highly recommended. There not to small or two big ether, there just right for me. $30 (about £22) is certainly not a bad price ether.

http://decomposedsk8.com/_wsn/page5.html

thanks amigo thats about the price of regular street wheels too cool!:icon_bigg

how long does a freestyle board last?

Until it breaks or wears to small to use.

Sounds like a sarcastic answer, but its the best I got. People skate their boards different, think they are dead differnet times, and treat them different. I have had my current board for 6 months, and its just about dead. I have had my wheels for a year, but just ordered new ones.

gotcha it depends on how you skate{sk8)

Just so everyone knows decomposed have the new uptrucks in stock and the axles are actually 16 15/16", not 17 15/16" that is a typo.

Do you guys have any specific grip tape set up? I usually go with a big open area in the middle of my deck. But have seen some wierd stuff.

on my normal decks i always cut lines right above the back bolts
but on my freestyle board i just cut out a little area and stuck a sk8kings sticker in it =P

right now i have a line one the back bolts:cool:

I use a different grip set up each time. My first Meta deck I used a walk the dog square. The second Meta deck I had a circle, and so did my Small School custom deck. The Meta:Sight I had had a sun walk the dog circle and a criss crosses over the entire deck. My current Sk8kings deck is just regular grip, nothing fancy.

~Necro

I have a circle in mine right now also. Much more controlable in some footwork i think. Also i need to ask, are Sk8kings Crown Jewel's any good? Alot of people seem to use them.

I haven't ridden the new softer ones. But I like the hard ones. But I would recomend the Powell Freestyle wheels if you want soft ones, or Small School/ Little Wheels wheels if you want harder wheels.

Basically the crown jewels are fine, but others are better, in my opinion.

Thanks alot. Well im gonna go with the Sk8kings 95a Crown Jewels, because thats what my Small School set-up is coming with.
Thanks for the help bro.

Jake

I love my Crown Jewels, they're the only wheel I ride (even before I was sponsored by Sk8kings). I like the harder wheel more, but the 95As are nice as well.

~Necro

are skate kings any good?

Yep, I wouldn't ride for them if they weren't :D

~Necro

Whats the difference beetween 95A and the other one?

I assume you are talking about the crown jewels. When asking questions make sure that you are as specific as possible.

95a is the softer of the two wheels. They are more grippy on the ground, and make for a smoother ride. I prefer softer wheels, but its all about choice

98a are the harder of the wheels. The feel faster, and slide more. Most street skating wheels are at least 99a. They feel more like a street wheel.

Oh okay. I assumed people knew what i was talking about (Crown Jewel's) because i was talking about it in a previous post.
Sorry.
Thanks.
Jake

I assume you are talking about the crown jewels. When asking questions make sure that you are as specific as possible.

95a is the softer of the two wheels. They are more grippy on the ground, and make for a smoother ride. I prefer softer wheels, but its all about choice

98a are the harder of the wheels. The feel faster, and slide more. Most street skating wheels are at least 99a. They feel more like a street wheel.

also the 98a are more likely to get flat spots. (cough* i got like 5 on my old set cough*)

What do you mean "Flat Spots"?

Doesent matter to me though, im getting the 95a :D

Jake

Yep, I wouldn't ride for them if they weren't :D

~Necro


they got a solid team to back the products up too:cool:

uh i bought mullen tensors realising that it fits a 7.75 will it fit a freestyle board?

There are a number of widths for freestyle boards. My board is a 7.5, so they wouldnt fit my board. Which is what matters to me.

i have to get a bigger deck around 7.75 then opps

Are those wheel's you bought Offset?

im sorry are u asking me?

^^ yeah i think he was. Offset wheels help so much with rail tricks and coco wheels and things along those lines.

not yet probley when i get the deck i will. i wanted to get like a 7.5 skate kings but my trucks are to big

hey guys whats the best freestyle deck with pop because i do flips a rotations like fs 360's and im thinking of getting one

...Get a deck that fits your own personal preference. Pop is a myth.

~Necro

wat do u mean pop is a myth, that makes no sense

The main influence on the height of your ollies it your ability to do them right. Which deck you ride has almost nothing to do with it.

so i can do a flip trick (with a ollie) and it will work on a freestyle deck?

so i can do a flip trick (with a ollie) and it will work on a freestyle deck?

i can 360flip on my freestyle board
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iss8mbnW8s

oh so flips are still in my array im thinking of going all freestyle equipment.

then again you are really good at flip tricks man lol

Darran Nolan 360 double flipped over two boards stacked in rail on my Lillis. Incase that means nothing to you, the board has no concave, no nose and had a tailskid on.

oh then it doesnt matter than. wow a 360 double flip:icon_woow

Also i ride a Small School single kick( flat, no nose) and also no concave, and my kickflip's(ollie) are 100 times better on that board then my very old street board with concave, double kick. But that's of course just me, on my street board i can barely land kickflip's, on my freestyle board i can ollie flip almost whenever i want.

I think for me because my freestyle board is of course alot smaller then my popsicle, so for me it flips alot faster.

What im saying is, with a freestyle board, or a popsicle, you will be able to Ollie Kickflip and other variation's with no problem.

yes. Yesturday i was having a amazing sesh, i ollie kickfliped this ledge and ollied a pretty big four set as well as other things and it was all on a freestyle deck.

Yeah, check this,its with a single kick. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4qy4E-Y8RE

wow guys thanks for the answers!:icon_wink

one more question which is a better skatekings complete if you know the primo or the 360 king complete?

The 360 king is made more for doing 360's. (spinning)

so not a good all around deck?

Nope, Very wide also.

so a primo complete is my best bet?

Or a Holl, they seem to be good, alot of people ride them, Christian, Jon Bunn.

Up too you.

im just not sure i dont wont to accendently buy the wrong board for 124 dollars

Well, at small school you could get a deck designed exactly how you want it. (Shape)

Pff, get a Sk8kings. You'll get it faster and all the shapes are baller.

~Necro

Haha baller.

Actually my small school came in 5 days.

Mine took about 14. It wasn't bad, but I've preferred every Sk8kings I've gotten, I like the wood and the feel better.

The graphics on the Small School boards tend to be like a giant sticker too, so your trucks **** them up too. It's annoying, but not a big deal.

~Necro

wow thanks for the tips!

Mine took about 14. It wasn't bad, but I've preferred every Sk8kings I've gotten, I like the wood and the feel better.

The graphics on the Small School boards tend to be like a giant sticker too, so your trucks **** them up too. It's annoying, but not a big deal.

~Necro
Yeah, i noticed about the sticker thing, Which really isnt a big deal, still work's the same.

Your item arrived in BRAZIL at 9:04 PM on October 8, 2007. Information, if available, is updated every evening. Please check again later.

=D its comming !!

so if i get a primo complete there is no way ill be able to grind?

^^ off course you can.

it thought we couldnt grind on a freestyle truck?

The only freestyle trucks are Uptrucks, which you cannot grind on. But all the Sk8 Kings completes come with Trackers, which a lot of street skaters use too.

oh ok then thanks!:icon_smil

Err...why not?

~Necro

why not what?

I think why not grind with "freestyle" trucks.

Well, I don't know about you guys, but the trucks on my board don't have an inverted kingpin, so it would almost be impossible to grind with.

Inverted king pins are a rather recent trend. They came about much after grinding.

Why can't you grind with uptrucks?

you can grind with uptrucks, they all come with like a metal bar on it made for grinding.

hey guys does it matter what size of sk8kings wheels i get because im thinking of putting it on my street board thats trucks fit a 7.75 really nicly?

oh ya so trucks wouldnt really matter for rail things right?

if so what are the differences between tesors and tracker?

Sk8 Kings does not make different size wheels, just different hardness. If you are a street skater, I would suggest the 98a wheels. They will feel more like the wheels you are used to.

Each truck company has a slight variation in size, which makes a big difference when you need your wheels flush. But usually a washer or two will fix it. But do not get Trackers, they are generally terrible trucks.

but sk8kings come with them so they give bad trucks?

Simple answer, yes.

I was fine with my set of Trackers - they're just about an exact copy of Indy trucks (geometry wise). Just about at least.

They're not bad trucks...I don't think I've ever ridden a 'bad' truck...aside from the Wal Mart ones which don't have bushings and all of course.

That being said, I prefer to ride Indy trucks, I don't know why...I just do.

~Necro

hmm ill think ill try the trackers thanks guys!! im just need to save for a primo complete

when you learn nh pogos your gunna regret it

hmm ill think ill try the trackers thanks guys!! im just need to save for a primo complete
Worth a try.
Im currently using Tracker Dart's, and i really like them.

alot of good people use them so i guess it cant be to bad :icon_wink

Haha.

The only person I know of the uses them is Christian. And I know a lot of really good freestylers that hate them too.

But do not get Trackers, they are generally terrible trucks.

What?

Wow, I've been using Trackers (darts) for a while now, they're awesome. I don't see how they can be "terrible" :confused:

alot of good people also ride for bad deck companys
doesnt matter
they get 1 every day and payed?

Haha.
why post laughing?

There gemetry is really funky, their king pins are huge, and their axles slip more than I thought possible.

There gemetry is really funky, their king pins are huge, and their axles slip more than I thought possible.

kingpin sticks out and stabs into your knee
my axle sliped in less then a full month?
had to hammer it back in
they stick side to side
but those reasons arent anything to worry about..

i dont know what to buy then after those complaints :icon_frow

gk minis,uptrucks,krux,bullet trucks are decent

for completes though

sk8kings only sets trackers with their prebuilt completes

yes. any other brand completes that are good though?

yes. any other brand completes that are good though?

every other companys besides outlook
www.decomposedsk8.com
is my favorite
witter will help you pick out the perfict complete


but sk8kings is the only place that has premade completes

Decomposed and Small School owners both are very hands on, and will help make the perfect custom complete.

Any truck company that still uses the same mold they did in the 70's isn't cool with me. The Darts are better than the fulltracks, but i'd still take almost any other truck over them.

I don't know anyone who approves of them that actually buys them. Lillis swears by them, but then again Lillis has been getting them free since the 80's. On the other hand, whilst Keith was sponsored by them he said he hated them.

In regards to your complete, if there's a specific shape you want you can just buy the deck and skid(s) from skatekings and everything else from somewhere else. You'll probably end up doing that in the future once you learn what you like anyway.

For the record, I ride Indy's...I'm just saying that the Trackers aren't terrible trucks like everyone seems to make them out to be. I've never had problems with them.

~Necro

im confused know:icon_frow


and how do the people at decomposed help you select your board?

You email Witter, the owner, and tell him that you want a complete with which ever deck you want. And ask him which wheels and trucks would work best with it.

oh thats really good service then.

I want to get a freestyle deck but i dunno what to look for. I'm probably gonna get a complete from sk8kings. I was thinking about getting this one: http://www.sk8kings.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=S&Product_Code=SK8KINGS032&Category_Code=C
is that good?

i can 360flip on my freestyle board
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iss8mbnW8s


what size that deck?

^^^
7.25

oh okay and u can flip it well right?

why wouldnt i beable too?
ive i can flip a 8.25 why not a 7.25

i mean that is it awkward to flip?

as i said
why would it be?
all skateboards can flip
it matters if the person on the skateboard can flip it

of course the board can flip

I find smaller boards much easier to flip, personally.

I find smaller boards much easier to flip, personally.


like a have a bigger board and i found it harder to flip compared to my older 7.5 board

notice
what we're saying
ITS SMALLER
OF COURSE ITS EASYER

easy guys im sorry

just that i was talking to witter and he said a 7.25 flips worse than a 7.5
im just trying to learn:icon_redf

street tricks yes it does
but you wont be doing street tricks on your freestyle board most likely
so it doesnt matter
your gunna be doing rail tricks
and pogos and such

im not gunna buy a 7.25 if i plan on jumping down a set

okay thank you!

Desiderio board is the fastest flippiest board i've ever skated. Like a slippery pickle..

Anybody tried the bullet trucks from Decomposed?? Just wondering how they are in relation to other trucks used for freestyle?

Desiderio board is the fastest flippiest board i've ever skated. Like a slippery pickle..
Why would you want to skate on a slippery pickle? lol
Will getting a freestyle board make it way easier to do tricks? I can't really do anything on my street board.

Why would you want to skate on a slippery pickle?
In order to have lightning fast flips

I actually bought the renna complete a few years ago and I thought it was really good. I still have it, but it wore down after a while. no delam or anything like that, it actually lasted pretty long.
how long did it take for u to receive it its been about 2 months and i still havent got mine

how long did it take for u to receive it its been about 2 months and i still havent got mine

From Outlook?

im thinking about getting a freestyle board from the decomposed site. is this goin to be okay?

deck: rodney mullen - saint 7.3
trucks: tracker dart
wheels: SK8 kings crown jewels 55mm
skids: blistered skids 8mm (includes hardware)
grip: true grit griptape
bearings: tensor moc 5 street

yes..

Anybody tried the bullet trucks from Decomposed?? Just wondering how they are in relation to other trucks used for freestyle?


i have bullet trucks and personally i like them, probley not as good uptrucks. witter likes them too.:icon_bigg

Are those bullet 105 mm? I'd like to know if they are low or mid (or high) because I skate with very loose settings and I d'like to avoid using risers to prevent wheelbites. In fact I hesitate between Tracker 109 mm and Bullet 105mm, I'm willing to use them on 7.5 street decks, mainly for flatland flip tricks and small gaps, so I need strong trucks with easy-to-replace kingpins, does anyone have an idea?

the trucks are for more 7.25-ish decks

im thinking about getting a freestyle board from the decomposed site. is this goin to be okay?

deck: rodney mullen - saint 7.3
trucks: tracker dart
wheels: SK8 kings crown jewels 55mm
skids: blistered skids 8mm (includes hardware)
grip: true grit griptape
bearings: tensor moc 5 street
I dont think the rodney mullen saint deck is for freestyle. It's a popsicle shape, correct?

What would the difference between http://www.sk8kings.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=S&Product_Code=SK8KINGS031&Category_Code=C
and
http://www.sk8kings.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=S&Product_Code=SK8KINGS032&Category_Code=C
be?
If I'm not mistaken, one is a single kick, one is a double.
What are advantages, disadvantages?
And I'm thinking I'd want 98 duro wheels with it, for CoCo Wheelies?
Skids, of course.
I skate a 7.75 street board right now, so I'm guessing a 7.5 Freestyle board would work best?

They are both double kicks, but the 360 king is a really awkward size and shape for freestyle. It is really big, which makes basically every trick harder.

hey guys what is your opinoin on street freestyle hybrid decks?

What do you mean?

like the 50/50 deck from decomposed

so thats what those pads are for!!


(someone is going to quote me, i know it)

like the 50/50 deck from decomposed

you meen the decks like the Renna deck? that are nice for freestlye and street ?

Well this is only my personal opinon obviosly but the Renna deck is the best deck ive ever skated, im soo happy and feel so incontrol with it i dont want any other deck, witch is why i have my second. Its a real nice deck for skatin around the park, doing gaps and so on, then havin abit of a freestyle sesh, when i first got the board i was skatin more park then i was flatland, but know all i seem to be doing now is flatland.

thats what im thinking. im thinking ill never go back to street decks there huge and usless to me now. i dont want to use them. but then there's that hybrid deck which has stabilty of street decks and the abilty to 50/50 and such with.

anybody else like them i want to know what you guys think. im just curious how it is very different people lol

I've been thinking about getting a freestyle board~its not exactly my thing but its hard to do truckstands on my zero board with razor edge lolz

http://www.sk8kings.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=S&Product_Code=SK8KINGS032&Category_Code=C

Isn't this a single, since one side is bigger then the other?
Explain how I tell if it's a single or double kick.

Could anyone link me to a good freestyle beginner board?
I like railflip/cooper flip type tricks.

Basically, a **** load of flips, and land. =D

I need to find out soon, cuz I've been hinted that I can get one for x-mas.

The only single kick that Sk8 Kings has is the Retro Jester. Its a bit tricky to tell by pictures what deck is a single and which is a double. But they all say on the various websites. As for decks you want something with a very tight radius on the nose and tail. The rounder the nose and tail, the less pop you get off of rail flips.

Decomposed Per Canguru
Decomposed Butterfield
Small School Artist III
Small School Grand Imperial
Outlook X-Team Rider
Reverse Lavallee

Less pop is good or bad?

^Ollie tricks are not the main priority of most freestylers.

If you want high rail flips you want good pop of the railstand. So you want a less round tail, which all the decks I listed have.

DJ, I think he ment pop off of a railstand, because I talked about that in my last post.

I wanna get them high so i can catch them, and look clean as hell. Also a board with a nice feel. Any ideas?

They are both double kicks, but the 360 king is a really awkward size and shape for freestyle. It is really big, which makes basically every trick harder.

I completely agree. I ordered the 360 king by mistake once, and although I managed to learn a few tricks on it, it was just so impractical. Don't buy this board unless your main priority is 360 spins and wheelie tricks.

Don't forget to add www.cbskates.com

hey guys in your opinion what do you guys think is your favorite skid?

and how are blistered skids working for people?

The blistered skids feel great IMO.

My favorite skids are the standard Decomposed skid. They last quite long, and are smaller than the Sk8 Kings and Small School skids.

^^
thanks both of you :)

YoYo skids are my favourite, but as far as i'm aware no-one in America stocks them, so it's a bit extreme to buy them in from Germany unless you're getting a bit more than just a skid.

okay so im jsut about to stary freestyle. will someone pick me the cheapest good quality set up and post it?please and thank you

^You could do some research yourself from the sites listed instead of having someone else but eastbilt sells the cheapest decks.
www.eastbilt.com

If your really interested in freestyle, should you get this setup?

hi, does anyone know any online shops in UK or europe that sell offset wheels? i cant find any anywhere and its annoying me!

All the freestyle companies ship to England, but the ones in the states it could get expensive. But Yoyo and Little Wheels have much better shipping rates for that part of the world.

what do you guys think of single kicktail skateboards (ie jester from sk8kings),how are they better or worse?

I ride a single kick, so does Callum. I think thats it of the freestylers on this forum. I love them, lots of people dont. They are not better or worse over all. There are a few tricks I find easier, more fun, or more stylish on a double kick. But there are many more that I find those things on a single kick.

I ride a single kick, so does Callum. I think thats it of the freestylers on this forum. I love them, lots of people dont. They are not better or worse over all. There are a few tricks I find easier, more fun, or more stylish on a double kick. But there are many more that I find those things on a single kick.
I ride singles also. And for his question, its just what (I) like. Honestly, you should try it once and see if you like it, or you will never know.

all right good point. I got my friend to buy a freestyle board. he got a jester. He also said he might sell(or give) me the deck. which is cool. i gotta try it out. i just dont want to waste money too. but he said i could try it out! just wondering what you guys thought of the type of deck! thanks

As a first freestyle deck I think its a bad idea, its also harder to do street and park style tricks on. You can still do it, just a lot harder.

Although i only skate single kick decks, which means i skate it when i go to the skatepark. Really, its about adapting to it, if you used to it, it shouldnt make somewhat of a difference when you skate a different 'style'.

no i have a freestyle deck, its a primo :icon_bigg i wanna get a new board to try

Well then, if you want to try a single, I myself say go for it!

all right!

So I was skateboarding today and noticed my board chips alot on the edges around my nose (possibly from railtricks). It hit me that many freestylers use screws for preventing this, so now I ask...What screws are I suppose to get?
I've ordered a freestyle board(with tailskid) and it should arrive later this week.

are the powell peralta g-bones offset

Nope, sorry.

I was wondering if a street board can be used for freestyle.
I have a street deck (and no money at the moment to buy a freestyle deck), and I want to get into freestyling.

Is anything particularly harder on a street board? What can't you do (so easily)?

(I didn't think this deserved it's own thread - I did a quick search but nothing came up really)

I've got a street deck too, and rail tricks like railwhips are nigh on impossible without offset wheels. So I've been trying to find some, but I can only find American companies and I'm not sure I can afford shipping and import duty. Are there any companies where its cheap to ship to the UK? The only Euro company I found was Little Wheels and they don't ship to UK.

I'm pretty sure Small School ships to Europe and there is also Yoyo Schultz webshop at www.yoyoskates.com

I think I'm going to order the Crwon Jewels from Sk8kings. Its $15 delivery, I didn't think that was too bad.

What would be a good reliable site to order a COMPLETE freestyle board from. I know there are many links listed on the first post in this thread but which ones are most reliable?

www.decomposedsk8.com - They don't have pre-built completes but Witter can help you pick out the components.
www.smallschool.biz - Same deal as decomposed or you could by a pre-built one from their ebay store here- http://stores.ebay.com/Ask-Santa_Skateboard-Gear_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfsubZ13QQftidZ2QQtZkm

www.sk8kings.com- Has pre-built completes.

www.decomposedsk8.com - They don't have pre-built completes but Witter can help you pick out the components.
www.smallschool.biz - Same deal as decomposed or you could by a pre-built one from their ebay store here- http://stores.ebay.com/Ask-Santa_Skateboard-Gear_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfsubZ13QQftidZ2QQtZkm

www.sk8kings.com- Has pre-built completes.

Alright thanks man, I may have found one on sk8kings.

Getting a complete from Sk8 Kings just because its easier is usually not the best idea. You should really look around and find a deck that you like. The owners of Small School and Decomposed are both very personable, and will help you build the best board you can.

Hey, Have you guys Seen/rode the Kevin Harris Reissue....

I heard its quite small, my board I just snapped after 4 months...was the Jester :)
What do you All think :O I really like How small it is, BUT is it to small....
?!?
what do you all think?

Hey, Have you guys Seen/rode the Kevin Harris Reissue....

I heard its quite small, my board I just snapped after 4 months...was the Jester :)
What do you All think :O I really like How small it is, BUT is it to small....
?!?
what do you all think?
its the smallest freestyle board ive seen for purchase
here are the specs

7 x 26.5" WB: 10.5"

^^ dam thats small.. wouldnt mind tryin that, though i use my freestyle board for skating park too, i can just picture me blastin up the box jump on a 7' board lol, got disater rote all over that one.

Hey, Have you guys Seen/rode the Kevin Harris Reissue....

I heard its quite small, my board I just snapped after 4 months...was the Jester :)
What do you All think :O I really like How small it is, BUT is it to small....
?!?
what do you all think?

i rode 3 of these and learned the basics on it. it is REALLLLLLLLYYYYYYYYY small. you could always adjust with it over time. Harris did, and he was a big dude from what i hear. 6'-something

5.75 nose and tail too
too long for my taste

I didn't know where to put this...

But I have a question: what do you think about puttin griptape on the one/both sides of the nose/tail (for railflips, and cooper stuff), truck baseplates (for 50/50s and its variations) and undersides of the board (for underflips)?

I'm thinking that the bottom gtape will be destroyed or worn away if it were on both nose/tails sides. (I would be in hs/ts railstands, by the way), and griptape on the trucks (and undersides) would be more of a personal preference...

What do you think?

I didn't know where to put this...

But I have a question: what do you think about puttin griptape on the one/both sides of the nose/tail (for railflips, and cooper stuff), truck baseplates (for 50/50s and its variations) and undersides of the board (for underflips)?

I'm thinking that the bottom gtape will be destroyed or worn away if it were on both nose/tails sides. (I would be in hs/ts railstands, by the way), and griptape on the trucks (and undersides) would be more of a personal preference...

What do you think?

Sides of the rails, as in the bit you stand on in rail? I'm not sure that would help, and it would definately not help for Primo Slides or Railwhips. On the trucks, I think they're pretty much sturdy enouugh and it'd be hard to get the grip to stick. And a lot of people put grip on the underside of the tail for caspers, but not really in the middle like for underflips. Hope I helped:icon_bigg

Sides of the rails, as in the bit you stand on in rail? I'm not sure that would help, and it would definately not help for Primo Slides or Railwhips. On the trucks, I think they're pretty much sturdy enouugh and it'd be hard to get the grip to stick. And a lot of people put grip on the underside of the tail for caspers, but not really in the middle like for underflips. Hope I helped:icon_bigg

Oh no, I meant the sides of the nose/tails between the truck area where u stand and the "tops" of the nose/tail. As for the undersides, i meant on the underside on the side where the graphic is...

The reason i ask is because the sole of my shoes (and the tops, for that matter!) are shyt [they're flat with NO grip, which makes walking in rain interesting :) ].

Oh no, I meant the sides of the nose/tails between the truck area where u stand and the "tops" of the nose/tail. As for the undersides, i meant on the underside on the side where the graphic is...

I think thats what I thought you meant... I think. Wait what?

But yeah, thats what I think I based my answers on. Probably not a good idea, grip is really just for the top, and maybe the bottom of the nose and tail. If it worked elsewhere people would use it.

Maybe just get new shoes, a bit more expensive than a sheet of grip but, by the sounds of what you want to do I think it'll work better. Or just work in general:)

Sorry, I'm still asleep, and I just got out of a school final that i funked...

But imagine ur in cooper; the foot NOT resting on the trucks is where the gtape would go... and the underside graptape would be applied alongside the underside of the rails...

PS: I wonder when I'll finally get my idears straight %) (and I probably will invest into some shoes...)

That seems unnessisary. The other foot does not help with stability or balance, its just about flipping. Unless I am in the middle of pushing for the cooper flip there is no pressure on that foot.

I see... so using tape in those areas wouldn't be of much use, even if I doing raillflips?

What is the griptape on the underside of the board for (along the rails between the trucks NOT the tape on nose/tails...)

Can you guyz give me some names off freestyle companies (pretty well know) cuz i cant buy trough internet, so i'll buy my first fs in zumiez,

Can you guyz give me some names off freestyle companies (pretty well know) cuz i cant buy trough internet, so i'll buy my first fs in zumiez,

There really aren't any "well known" companies outside of the freestyle scene. You won't find any freestyle gear in a Zumiez or most any other skateshop, the only place I've heard of being able to buy freestyle stuff outside of the internet is Tommy Harward's shop/skatepark in Wake Forest, NC and he just sells decks that he still has from his old sponsors.

outlook is probably the biggest if you want to try to have them order it for you.

nameless, sometimes people put grip by the trucks for 50/50 stuff, and along the rails for rail kickbacks and underflips. you don't really see that very often though

^Lately it has been a risk ordering from Outlook though with their shipping. Some people can attest to this but I never ordered from them so I don't have any experience in the matter.

What is the griptape on the underside of the board for (along the rails between the trucks NOT the tape on nose/tails...)

DOUBLE POST

Oh btw I would have darkstar C2 any modle atm they are the lightest and strongest in the world with gell wheels phantom 2 trucks jessup griptape and red barrings for a freestyle setup!

I'm looking for a new deck and was checking out the Lavallee Pro. Anyone know how good is that deck at rail to rail? What size trucks work well? Someone on this forum said the Lavallee was a good hybrid. Any feedback on that deck would be most helpful.

I currently have a smallschool "Goke" deck. Jeremy Elder is great and he did an amazing job. That board just isn't my style. Too square to do rail to rail easily and doesn't work well at all for street. No pop.

Thanks for the feedback.

Hey I just measured one of my really old boards. It is 7 1/3 inches wide and 27 1/4(give or take on both measurements). It is an element twig deck. I noticed this was closer to the standard freestyle board size. can that board be used for freestyle or should I wait for a meta:flight deck?

Yes, it could be used for freestyle but I'm guessing there probably isn't much of a nose or tail left to it though. As for the Meta, you'd probably be waiting for a long time, Meta is pretty much dead now.

I'm looking for a new deck and was checking out the Lavallee Pro. Anyone know how good is that deck at rail to rail? What size trucks work well?
It's as good as you make it... it's got well tapered kicks though, so railflips are easy and thus I guess it's 'good' at rail to rail. Any 5.0 trucks will work well with it.

What is the griptape on the underside of the board for (along the rails between the trucks NOT the tape on nose/tails...)
Along with all that Aron said, it's used for grabs and yoyo plants aswell.

Yea the nose and tail are chipping off and givving me little woodchips every once and a while. Any other suggestions on companies since meta is dead.
'preciate it

Look at the first page it gives the names of most companies, the only one not there would be www.cbskates.com .

I hope this question wasnt asked yet, I was to lazy to read all 23 sites:

I skate freestyle with my street deck,I would love to own a freestyle deck,but I'm atraid It works not as good for me.can that be??

I have tried to skate freestyle on a freestyle board. I sucked. Still good for the forum to skate with a street board?

^What you skate is all personal preference, the only way you'll find out what you like best is to test out a couple of things. When I first skated a freestyle deck I didn't like it as much as a street deck, now I have to separate setups, one for street and one for freestyle and would never go back to using a street setup for freestyle again.

Wow, Brian pretty much has this thread covered. :)

Tommy doesn't sell his old outlook decks there anymore (the local kids including myself skated him out of them lol), so he now sells delicious freestyle skateboards. I don't know the exact measurements of the deck other than the fact that it is 7.5" wide.

Meta hasn't gotten meta:flight decks in stock in forever. They have been out for about 2 years now.

Anything with a rounded end is terrific for railflips, and hence rail to rails.

^Didn't Tommy sell his old Outlook decks for a pretty cheap price too?

what trucks should I use for a 7.5 deck?

i had gk minis for my first one (I think Witter messed up) and I have Indy 129s on my current setup. any suggestions?

^Krux down lows, they have a 7.1 axle and should fit nicely with some offset wheels. Just out of curiosity what deck would you be skating them with?

^Didn't Tommy sell his old Outlook decks for a pretty cheap price too?

Yeah, I think out of charity (or pity lol) for the local freestylers who were choking for gear, he sold the outlook decks, freestyle trucks, and offset wheels, all at $20 each.

It was a great deal while it lasted. His new Delicious freestyle decks I think are normal price. I believe we are still able to get tracker trucks (that was the only truck he could get) at the same price, because he is able to get them shipped to him from Wilmington.

^That is quite the deal, too bad I live in NY rather than Wake Forest but then again I didn't really like the Harward deck.

Trust me, when you get your first freestyle deck, you're not too worried about the measurements or characteristics of the board.

It was good for what it was back then. We've all grown physically and in skateboarding and the Harwards can't keep us now.

^How many did you end up skating anyways?

I skated 3 Harwards. Am now on a small school deck, soon to be on a CB3.

^Krux down lows, they have a 7.1 axle and should fit nicely with some offset wheels. Just out of curiosity what deck would you be skating them with?

Either a sk8kings Holl or a CB1.

Why the Krux then? The Holl is 7 5/8 so any standard sized truck should fit it and a CB1 is only 7.0 so the Krux would be too wide for it.

Anyone have any experience with bullet trucks? I ordered some to go with my 7.25" CB3, and I want to know if it was a good choice or not.

Tyler do you mean CB3 or CB2???? Because the CB3's are just under 7.5" while the CB2's are 7.25". Unless you have a new CB3 or something and it's a different size.

But anyways... I'm currently using Bullet trucks with my CB3 and I have used them with my CB2 also. They work perfectly with the CB2, and are a bit on the narrow side for the CB3 without any adjustments but some people like it that way. I'm currently using OJII wheels which I've heard are a bit wider than some other freestyle wheels and I've also added a washer behind each wheel and with that it's just SLIGHTLY on the narrow side with the CB3 deck but it feels pretty good to me. I do really like the trucks though. I've used uptrucks, venture 4.75's, and now bullets and I'd have to say that overall the bullets are my favorite.

It may be a CB2. It's a blank deck from Leathers, so I couldn't tell. But I do know the deck is 7.25".

Tyler, ive used my buddy's bullet trucks before, and they are really good. They remind me of my old tracker darts with a little less kingpin sticking out. If the deck your getting is a cb2, you should be good to go with the bullets.

I'm skating Bullets right now and like them. You still get a bit of a dig from the kingpin if you don't invert it but nothing too terrible. Overall though I'd say it's a good quality truck and with some offset wheels they should fit fine with a 7.25. Like Jake said they are similar to Trackers but without as bad of kingpin sticking out.

Why the Krux then? The Holl is 7 5/8 so any standard sized truck should fit it and a CB1 is only 7.0 so the Krux would be too wide for it.

woops, I was totally not thinking, i meant the cb3 or cb4 or whatever the 7.5 choas deck was.

my thoughts exactly, but I have Indy 129s on it now and they're like exactly flush with the deck. trucks are generally supposed to be a little less wide, right?

Yeah if it's a 7.25" deck, they'll fit perfect with some offset wheels. I was using them on a blank CB2 and they worked great.

Brian, how do you like the bullets with the CB3 deck?? I find them a little narrow, but was wondering what you thought. I'm kind of thinking about getting some Destruco 4.5's. I found them not too long ago and just noticed that Jeremy is now selling them on the Small School site. They seem like they'd be a perfect fit for the CB3, but we'll see. Don't have a ton of extra cash to spend. :)

Yeah if it's a 7.25" deck, they'll fit perfect with some offset wheels. I was using them on a blank CB2 and they worked great.

Brian, how do you like the bullets with the CB3 deck?? I find them a little narrow, but was wondering what you thought. I'm kind of thinking about getting some Destruco 4.5's. I found them not too long ago and just noticed that Jeremy is now selling them on the Small School site. They seem like they'd be a perfect fit for the CB3, but we'll see. Don't have a ton of extra cash to spend. :)

Yeah, they are too narrow. I'm using them with some worn SS wheels with four washers behind each wheel (the most I could fit). Right now it is fine but when I first set it up it was still kind of narrow. I was thinking about about doing the same thing and ordering some Destructos from Jeremy but I want to try OJ wheels so I might just end up getting those and a set of Kruxs from Decomposed still need more money though.

Yeah, they are too narrow. I'm using them with some worn SS wheels with four washers behind each wheel (the most I could fit). Right now it is fine but when I first set it up it was still kind of narrow. I was thinking about about doing the same thing and ordering some Destructos from Jeremy but I want to try OJ wheels so I might just end up getting those and a set of Kruxs from Decomposed still need more money though.

haha yeah I know what you mean about needing more money. I can't WAIT to be done with school and get a full time well paying job. :) But anyways on topic... I was using OJII's with the bullets and the CB3 with some washers and it wasn't too bad. I just got some SS wheels though and with those it makes it quite narrow with the bullets since the SS aren't as wide as the OJ's. Probably will just break down and get the destructos. I thought about Krux too, but I think the destructos will work. If you go to the destructo website it says the 4.5's axles are 7 1/8" wide which is like 7.1 something. Then on the destructo store it says the axles are 7.25" wide. Either way I think they'll work fine with either set of wheels with the CB3. haha sorry I just kind of rambled there. :)

I need some help with my railstand balance (I think). At the moment, my trucks stick out just a fraction more than the width of my deck. I thought this was ok (and that I just had trouble balancing) but apparantley its better to have it the other way, a fraction less wide than the deck (I think). In any case, what trucks would all you FS experts recommend for the Gary Holl sk8kings deck. Please just give feedback abou the trucks and NOT my deck because it's what I've got and I'm used to it for now :)

^What trucks are you using right now? I know the Holl is 7 5/8 so usually a standard sized street truck would fit as they are usually between 7.5 - 7.6.

As I didn't know what the brands, sizes etc. meant I just got a complete from sk8kings. I know it came with tracker trucks, more than that I don't know.

^Then they were probably 129mm darts then which should of fit. Did they always stick out? My guess would be they didn't but the deck might worn down past them if so if you have offset wheels you could buy Krux downlows or Destructo 4.5 trucks which would fit with offsets.

^Well thats true, at first it felt OK, but I've only been skating for about 2 months - and I don't skate everday like I'm sure a lot of people do. Isn't that a little quick to wear down? Thanks for the advice Brian.

That would be a pretty quick wear down though. Darts are 7.5 so it would be a 1.625 inches to wear down. Do you do a lot of rail tricks?

^Hmm, I do practice a lot of rail to rail (without much success) but I doubt it's anywhere near enough to make a difference so quickly...? I'll guess I'll get some different trucks and see if it wears down any further.

So I put my bullet trucks on my CB2 like I said I would. The trucks are so thin compared to the deck that I feel like i'm going to fall off of rail. My guess to the solution is to add some washers to the wheels.

What did you all do who said they skated a CB2 with the bullet trucks?

Tyler, by thin do you mean narrow??? If so I just bought like hardware store round washers and put one of those plus just 1 of the tiny skate washers behind each wheel and it made them just fine then. I'm also using small school wheels with that set up now.

Yeah, the trucks are 6.7" and the deck is 7.25".

I got used to 7.0" on my 7.5" small school deck, i'm sure this will work out fine too.

http://www.smallschool.biz/news/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/myimperial.jpg

Very nice, a "Flatland" Imperial Swirl?

Yep, and a pretty worn one at that. I just JB welded and regripped the ends. They were alot blunter. :P

Well its that time of the month again, where I have to set up a freestyle deck. So 7.5" Delicious skate shop freestyle deck (Harward shape) but I got some Phantom 2 7.0" trucks pretty good I like them but packed in a bunch of flat washers. Also Called up Original for some wheels and they sent me out a few sets of wheels, some bearings, and the 2 other boards you see pictured.

Well I can't post links so that is kind of a bummer so I gotta post random stuff so I can post a link to the pictures...Lame

Well its that time of the month again, where I have to set up a freestyle deck. So 7.5" Delicious skate shop freestyle deck (Harward shape) but I got some Phantom 2 7.0" trucks pretty good I like them but packed in a bunch of flat washers. Also Called up Original for some wheels and they sent me out a few sets of wheels, some bearings, and the 2 other boards you see pictured.

Well I can't post links so that is kind of a bummer so I gotta post random stuff so I can post a link to the pictures...Lame


Sean, you are a tease where are the pics? :P


BAM! It's acelebration...

http://smallschool.biz/blog_imagery/sean1.jpg

http://smallschool.biz/blog_imagery/sean2.jpg

Cool set ups sean! What is that yellow effects pedal?

Dimentions of my newest:

7 1/4" x 28 3/4
5 1/2" nose
5 3/4" tail
13 1/4" wheelbase

A little longer, and a little thinner while keeping the short nose and tail. The tail will also be a bit more rounded. The nose will resemble a Mullen chess that has been pogo'd on for about a week. Pictures soon...

Thank you J.
Matt the yellow pedal is a Boss ODB-3 bass over drive pedal and the other one is a Vox V-847 wah...Yes a guitar wah for a bass works amazingly.

Sean, where did you get your skids? and thats one sick setup :)
and would you say, the Original wheels are good for freestyle? because the Longboard wheels at my shop are 60 bucks :(

Sean, where did you get your skids? and thats one sick setup :)
and would you say, the Original wheels are good for freestyle? because the Longboard wheels at my shop are 60 bucks :(

They are like 8" Powell tail bones that I cut and sand down. Oh how I love my new belt sander. $60 is crazy get them for $24 here: http://store.originalskateboards.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=16
Plus get $5 off your purchase when you subscribe to Original's youtube channel. Krypto makes Original's wheels so I can skate them and it's still cool with OS. But they last me about 2.5 months and I coco like there is no tomorrow and skate super rough surfaces plus they are side set which will last you a long time.

Am I a sales man or what? Haha

Yes, you can. But you cannot do pogos, 50-50s, rails, etc as easy. I used a street board for a while. It was good enough for railflips, though. Freestyle deck helps a lot.

Yes, you can. But you cannot do pogos, 50-50s, rails, etc as easy. I used a street board for a while. It was good enough for railflips, though. Freestyle deck helps a lot.

I can't do pogos? Hahahaha are you serious?

Based on my calculations, I have estimated that there is a comfortable mathematical probability that Vittheskater is talking about street boards.

Based on my calculations, I have estimated that there is a comfortable mathematical probability that Vittheskater is talking about street boards.

I concur.