Do you think the ban of smoking in public places is a good idea.
I think it is.

Yes it is . Just becouse

yes it is a good idea because... I dont want to die from seconfd hand smoke in a resturaunt or sitting at the park

It is an extremely good idea. I was in Hungary last summer, it's terrible. Whenever we went to a restaurant, people were smoking left, right and center. NO ONE DOES ANYTHING! It's absolutely HORRIBLE compared to North America.

yes it is a good idea because... I dont want to die from seconfd hand smoke in a resturaunt or sitting at the park

You won't. The effects of second hand smoke could quite possibly be the most widely believed farce.

I think it's a terrible idea, from a privacy perspective. It destroys the privacy rights of the business owners.

YES it's a very good idea.Smoking sux.

You won't. The effects of second hand smoke could quite possibly be the most widely believed farce.

I think it's a terrible idea, from a privacy perspective. It destroys the privacy rights of the business owners.

Depends.

Being a victom having to suffer through a childhood of having 2 parents who smoked 2 packs a day and me being the only family member to have asthma I might disagree. I also would disagree because when I get around smoke I usually always get sick with bronchitis...I hate smoking.

As for the ban it depends. Smoking and bars seem to go together usually, I think if the owner wants to have a smoking section AWAY from the non-smoking section then great. Heck, I don't really care if they have a all smoking bar/resturant as long as the POST IT in their ads and anything that would relate to their establishment.

I hate practically coughing up my lungs due to smokers...

Depends.

Being a victom having to suffer through a childhood of having 2 parents who smoked 2 packs a day and me being the only family member to have asthma I might disagree. .
Yeah man thats more or less what i have had most of my life, it sucked.:(
Now they have stopped smoking near me because i rant and rave whenever they do.:icon_peac

Depends.

Being a victom having to suffer through a childhood of having 2 parents who smoked 2 packs a day and me being the only family member to have asthma I might disagree. I also would disagree because when I get around smoke I usually always get sick with bronchitis...I hate smoking.


Yeah, but this is chronic exposure to high levels of smoke. The amount you inhale in a bar will be healed and cleared from your body ini 24 hours. The amount you inhale in a restaurant is negligable and won't effect you other than smelling bad.


As for the ban it depends. Smoking and bars seem to go together usually, I think if the owner wants to have a smoking section AWAY from the non-smoking section then great. Heck, I don't really care if they have a all smoking bar/resturant as long as the POST IT in their ads and anything that would relate to their establishment.

Well, here's the thing. The owner of the business built the business, put all the money up, decided what services he wanted to give, decided what to sell, bought everything necessary to do that, hired all the staff, and pays taxes on property and business. It's a private business built with no help of the government. In fact, at this point, the only thing the government has done for the business owner is take some of his income away for the privilege of having the business in America, and now they want to decide what the business owner can or can not do in that establishment? Screw that, he has a right as a private business owner to call the shots on what goes on inside the business he has built with their own hands and sweat.

You don't like a smoking bar or restaurant? Don't go to it. That's how capitalism works. The consumer does not have the right to mandate by law how a business works based on their personal preference.

And before anyone says it, I know all bars have smokers and I know you can't go to a bar because they all have smokers. Make a smoke-free bar, and if there's such a demand for it, you'll make a hell of a lot of money off of it. This is how capitalism works.

I can't say I totally disagree, my point is I would hate to drive to a resturant and find out it's all smoke...if that were to happen I would want them to post in their ads, phone listing etc ...that it is a smoking establishment so I know not to drive there.

The amount you inhale in a restaurant is negligable and won't effect you other than smelling bad.

Wrong, as posted above some people have allergies and other problems, exposure to smoke usually makes me very sick, almost everytime. Long term damage yes i agree.

About a month ago, I was at Heathrow Airport getting a meal at some restaurant. About 70% of it was a smoking area, the other 30% was non-smoking that had crappy chairs and tables compared to the smokers. It was ridiculous.

There getting treated diffrent because there smokers, thats s**t:icon_burn , if anything the non smokers should have the better stuff because we have to put up with them.

Yeah, you should of seen it. They had like lounge chairs and big enough tables to enjoy your meal for the smokers. I had to eat at this small round table with bar stools.

i think it's a good idea because you can go eat at a restaurant and come out not smelling like a pack of cigarettes. it's not only the clothes, it's everything even the hair. i hate the smell of cigarette smoke. if people wanna stink up a place and smoke they can do it at home.

I have to say, smokign at public restaurants, especially ones where there are plenty of children is absolutely disgusting. I don't understand how people can enjoy a good meal and light up at the same time, ruining the great smell with that crap smelling nicotene. If people want to smoke, either smoke at home, or get out of the restaurant and do it outside the facility.

i really don't care...if people want to smoke, let them. second hand doesn't really bother me all that much.

and for restaurants, why not just have "smoking" and "non smoking" sections?

I think smokers and non-smokers should respect each other, so a good idea is for the smoker to ask the non-smokers whether it is okay with them to smoke, because some non-smokers just can't stand it. However, most of the time asking for individual "permission" is not possible. So I think there should be like a smoker's area or something so that people can smoke.

Also, banning smoking would put more pressure on smokers, possibly encouraging more of them to quit for the good of their health.

I'm a smoker, it's a good idea to ban in resteraunts but bars and pubs... NO WAY!

To be honest, i couldnt give a ****, it makes no difference to me. Because if someone isnt smokin in a restaurant it dont matter cos everyone can still smoke outside so theres not much difference. It's just a stupid idea that will make bars and stuff lose money. But i do agree with restaurants, but like JJ17 said, why not have smokin and non smokin sections? But i'm not the only person in the world, so i can't insist that it's stupid. But defintely dont ban smokin in pubs and stuff. Thats just bull****.

And no, i dont smoke.

i hate smoking. especially when people do it near where im street skating, because it makes me winded real easy.

it is defiantly a good idea... this will prevent second hand smoke...

As an ex-smoker (18 months now) I would have to say that I agree with the ban. I was a smoker of 20 years and grew up around smoking so I never was able to smell the disgusting odor of cigs. Now that I have quit, I cannot believe the rancid smell that cigerattes leave on you and your clothing. I also now have chronic Lung disease and asthma. Smoking was not worth it.

I do believe however, if there are seperate sections with adequate ventilation, then albiet, but by putting up a halfwall and saying that this side is non-smoking and this side is smoking, that is bs, ventilate like you would a paint booth.

i have mixed feelings, if your in a place were there are kids, smoking should be banned, but in a bar, its ok because you usually have to be over 18 to get in, but they should still be divided smoking, and nonsmoking section

I'm a smoker, it's a good idea to ban in resteraunts but bars and pubs... NO WAY!

awesome your a smoker and your 17 cool............NOT! smoking sux everytime im n the car and like my grandmas smoking i stick my head out the window in resturants it wasnt bad with the smoking section in a different room

I think it's a good idea, but the whole second-hand killing thing is a little blown out of poportion. It takes a lot of smoke for a prolonged period of time to do any real damage. In bars it should be okay to smoke, because hey, that's what bars are for.
Smoking and drinking. And hooking up. :icon_peac

I think this is a good idea. In Europe most of the restaurants have strong smoke in them. From smoking of course. Not all of them, but a good amount you could say.

Smoking sucks, both my parents smoke. they say it sucks. ergo it must suck
Banning something that sucks is good, smoking sucks and will be banned on april 1st hang on thats april fools day! Ill fill the cigarette cartons fist snakes hahaha!

EDIT: Oops is april the 30th, aw well.

Smoking sucks

I never use to think much of this topic until all my friends started smoking..Honestly i think it would be a good idea

If a pub is serving food, there should be no smoking in there at all. As far as people complaining about second hand smoke out doors,I find that funny when a city bus goes past with its exhaust spewing out black exhaust smoke all over the place. what do you think is worse?

**** cigarettes legalize marijuana for gods sake!:icon_peac

hahah Hell Yeah lazedout! i would just think in public places..people think that when someone smokes, they smoke cigarettes....I smoke Cigars, and its not as bad as cigarettes..I don't really care

If you are ever in Leicester, dont throw a dog end on the floor in the city. If a cop sees you get a £75 fine for it!

since this poll has started(a long time ago) I have stopped smoking YEAY. This may notbe important to you guys/gals, but i just thought i should share it with you. P.s. sorry for bumping i didnt want to make a whole diffrent topic.

I dont smoke, and never will. I think the ban is bad news for pub and club owners. I work in a nightclub, and everyone is gonna have to go outside when they want to smoke, it's gonna be ridiculous, the atmosphere will be ruined.

But, tbh it's not my business, so I really couldnt care less.

Unbeleivable, Now Arto-geoff has started smoking, with the excuse that "I don't want to live 'till I'm 80" Unbeleivable, the sooner they ban smoking the better

P.S. Sk8forpie has also started smoking.

Unbeleivable...

Smoking sucks they should make it completely illegal even though there not going to because of the tax the get from it.

I don't think the bars and clubs are suffering any (not in New Jersey, USA anyway). They are still packed. The few people (if any) who don't go out anymore are more than made up for by those who now will. Plus, the bars and resaurants smell better.

i dont agree with the no smoking ban

Unbeleivable, Now Arto-geoff has started smoking, with the excuse that "I don't want to live 'till I'm 80" Unbeleivable, the sooner they ban smoking the better

P.S. Sk8forpie has also started smoking.

Unbeleivable...

i started smoking because i enjoy the feeling of a cigarette in my hands and relaxing, it helps me stop stressing out, perhaps you should care about your own life a tad more than mine phlap ;)

yes it is.

I thought attemptive suicide was illegal. I personally beleive that all the cigarette making companies should be located in oregon because that is the only state with legalized assisted suicide. I can't stand smoking and the ignorents that follows it. Last friday I failed my pt test in ROTC because I had a asthma attack caused by having to put up with my grandmas smoking habits for years. My g/f can't even sit in a room with cigerette smoke without getting a headache. I personally don't get a headache but I start coughing and my eyes start watering. Ya know what fine kill yourself but don't bring me down with you.

then the owners should make it an only smoke restaurant and let it be known that people will be smoking in there, and second hand smoke DOES affect you

Excellent. Even though over 18s do go in pubs and such. Some people have breathing problems such as me.

I think it's good because it makes it hard to breathe and it makes me feel weird.

Haha smoking REALLY isn't that big of a deal. But I hang around with loads of druggies, so weed and heroin aren't really big deals anymore. I mean, a few years ago, I was mega naive, and if I saw someone with a joint, I'd be like WAHHH!

But It doesn't bother me anymore.

I'll smoke if I want to, I'll stop if I want to. Really, people can do whatever they want to, it doesn't make a difference.

Flip ;)

i think its a good idea because it will stop killing people.

Haha smoking REALLY isn't that big of a deal. But I hang around with loads of druggies, so weed and heroin aren't really big deals anymore. I mean, a few years ago, I was mega naive, and if I saw someone with a joint, I'd be like WAHHH!

But It doesn't bother me anymore.

I'll smoke if I want to, I'll stop if I want to. Really, people can do whatever they want to, it doesn't make a difference.

Flip ;)
Well, dope isn't a big deal. But Heroine on the other hand is a very dirty drug.

Thats rediculous, if people can just use common sense and be sensible, there would be no reason for any laws/bans of this nature.

awesome your a smoker and your 17 cool............NOT! smoking sux everytime im n the car and like my grandmas smoking i stick my head out the window in resturants it wasnt bad with the smoking section in a different room



Comments like these are just ignorant. Why do people actually belive others smoke for fun. You're a hard core loser to force yourself to smoke even though you didnt like it just to be cool, that'd sad. Majority of people smoke, becuase.. simply they like it.

Well, dope isn't a big deal. But Heroine on the other hand is a very dirty drug.



Ya, I know. If this guys friends are just hanging out then they take out some herion you need new friends man. Heroin will ruin you very quickly, take it from someone with some experince.

really i found cocaine to be more adicitng than heroin but then again it maybe if you inject as compared to insuflating.

anyways heroin is always a big deal.

Nah, heroin is common here. The big deals are the amphetamines, all the meths really. Really, it should be the other way around, but meh. What can ya do?

Flip ;)

Herion addicts are like roaches and it sounds like you have been over run. I'd get the hell out of there.

There could be a whole debate about this..from what I've seen from the size of the posts there already is. In my opinion (and mine only) its good, I hate the smell of smoke and unfourtantley people who smoke I find harder to like. When the ban in the UK comes in I'll definitley ..erm..not 'enjoy' it, but I'll like it.

the smoking ban is a terrible idea, as well as the pricing of cigarettes as well. The goverment is trying to get people to stop smoking because they believe it will make the country healthier and more efficient if everyone were to stop smoking. And yes as good intentions as that plan has, it tramples all over some americans rights to do what they choose even if it is bad for them. which is what this country was basically founded on, the right to do what you want.

i hate having to live in my house because my mom smokes her head off.. smoking sucks.. so yea, ban it.....


poor dave bachinsky..

Haha slightly off-topic, but I was searching this topic on youtube, and I found a ridiculous amount of "Smoking Fetish" videos...

LOL @ THAT!

Flip ;)

i think its a good idea, save a lot of people and make people more comfortable and everything. its a good idea to me because i cant stand being around smokers

Hey!

I have a new invention, I call it the cigarrette.

You set one side of it on fire and stick the other half in your mouth and suck in all the smoke.

What idiot gave this guy a patent?

^Evidently, that person made trillions of pounds from the business.

So the person who gave him a patent, was indeed a smart man.

Flip ;)

Hey!

I have a new invention, I call it the cigarrette.

You set one side of it on fire and stick the other half in your mouth and suck in all the smoke.

What idiot gave this guy a patent?

Hey, I have a new idea, I call it stop ripping on smokers.

Now the smoking ban has been introduced, passive smoking will be significantly dropped. You yourself don't smoke, so how about you, and anyone else, stop ripping on and making out smoking is so ridiculously horrible. If you don't do it, that's all you need to worry about, stop leaning into any smokers life.

Phlap obviously doesn't realise that the people who gave the guy a patent are much richer than he will EVER be. x1000.

Flip ;)

i think so, i just dont like the smell

Phlap obviously doesn't realise that the people who gave the guy a patent are much richer than he will EVER be. x1000.

Flip ;)

Or maybe I do and I was taking the piss...

Still, smoke whatever you want, just quit coming over to me and asking me to.

I dont really mind people smoking but I dont really like the smell, the feeling of smoke covering me and the fact that secound hand smoking is harming me beacuse of other people.

Or maybe I do and I was taking the piss...

Still, smoke whatever you want, just quit coming over to me and asking me to.

Ahhh now don't get me wrong laddy! I'm not asking you to start smoking. I never once did. I wouldn't dream of it.

Just make your "piss-taking" a tad clearer.

Flip ;)

Hey!

I have a new invention, I call it the cigarrette.

You set one side of it on fire and stick the other half in your mouth and suck in all the smoke.

What idiot gave this guy a patent?


Wdf are you talking about? Tobacco has been used since like 1 B.C.

^VERY well said!

Ahh I love these debates! Cause most people have naive and ignorant views fed to them by the corporate media.

Flip ;)

up the regal filter!!

Smokers have the right to smoke, banning cigarettes is like banning walking...

Whats funny is that I just a an episode of south park about smoking and it really did change my veiw of smoking... How the indians used It and how it kept companies balanced and stuff.

i dont think it is because people should do what they want to do and maybe someday people will be that way about skateboarding

Tobacco has been used since like 1 B.C.
Tsk Tsk Tsk, tobacco has certainly been used for ages (Aztecs), but cigarettes are a more recent thing.

Ahhh now don't get me wrong laddy! I'm not asking you to start smoking. I never once did. I wouldn't dream of it.
Flip ;)

No, I didn't mean you man.

^VERY well said!

Ahh I love these debates! Cause most people have naive and ignorant views fed to them by the corporate media.

Flip ;)

bit of a hypocrite arnt you? his point was that if smoking was found today with all the technology we have it would be banned because of what it does to our health. it would take a pretty ignorant and naive person to not realise that.

^No, I realise that. But that's not the scenario, smoking started hundreds of years ago. I understand the health risks, and maybe if it was found today it could quite possibly be banned, but it isn't.

Flip ;)

It is in public places :icon_bigg

The ban doesnt bother me since I dont smoke.

Its probably a good thing

Well it's been put in place now. How is everyone feeling? Does the world seem THAT much better?

Flip ;)

I dunno, i prefer it i suppose because i hate sitting near people whoa re smoking in restaurants or something, haven't been anywhere like that yet though.

The only thing I've really noticed is that pubs don't smell as much when you walk past.

The smell of smoke just puts me off. Anything, really it's not nice. I find it really selfish that A) people are happy to blow something thats killing ME and them in my general direction and B) they are willing to make everywhere they go smell like bonfire night.

Rant over. Yeah. Yay for the ban :D

In the great words of Goldie Lookin' Chain:

"Smoke don't kill people, rappers do..."

Simple as.

Flip ;)

not a cig smoker. i could do without it. it's the gateway drug

im torn with this decision...being a smoker myself i enjoi the freedom of being able to smoke where i please but at the same time i understand that its a disgusting habit and most people prefer to be away from it.it should deffinatly be in the hands of the the business owner.

i quit smoking about 6 weeks ago, so i'm done with it i'm so sure, its the most idiotic thing ive ever done in my live.
i think its a good idea to ban smoking in restaurants, because nobody likes smoke while eating a good meal. but in bars and pubs? come on, if youre a smoker its the best thing ever to drink a beer, have a cigarette in your other hand and talk to friends. let those people smoke in pubs and stuff..

yeah, they should stop smoking once and for all, or there should be certant spots were you are alloed to smoke. i hate the smell of it.

P.S- dont get high on drugs... get high on life!

Depends.

As for the ban it depends. Smoking and bars seem to go together usually, I think if the owner wants to have a smoking section AWAY from the non-smoking section then great. Heck, I don't really care if they have a all smoking bar/resturant as long as the POST IT in their ads and anything that would relate to their establishment.


couldn't have said it better myself

Well i would have to say yes and no because some people like to complain.

^^^why would you bump an EXTREMELY old thread????

he bumped it on the 7th but it's like the 3rd thread in the off topic section.

EDIT: Oh someone must've voted in the poll.

Smoking sucks, and should definitely be banned.
In France it's only been banned in bars and pubs since the begining of the year.

It IS a good idea!

I work in a restaurant.. and in all hotels, restaurants and cafe's is a smoking ban from the first of July.. which is next monday :D I'm looking forward to it, to serve people without breathing in their smoke ^^

If people want to smoke I say let them smoke. It's just never bothered me.

I think restaurants are the only places we need a ban on smoking. But bars and pubs can smoke, it just wouldn't be right without the side order of cancer!

well its kind of a bummer for bars and stuff, but as pooldogfromoz (LOL i just realized if you abreviate your name it would be like PDF hahahah funny).. anyway in restaurants its good, and some other places. so i think its a good idea even if it sucks for smokers

What's PDF?

Yeah, I feel sorry for the people who work in hotels, and in restaurants it can be gross but that it's never bothered me personally.

its the name of a document you can save pics into with photoshop, stands for portable document format lol

Random as, lol.

I'd go further and ban farting in public places.

thats how i see second hand smoke. "Excuse me sir, can i fart in your mouth in return for the cancer causing smoke you just blew in my face"

well its kind of a bummer for bars and stuff, but as pooldogfromoz (LOL i just realized if you abreviate your name it would be like PDF hahahah funny).. anyway in restaurants its good, and some other places. so i think its a good idea even if it sucks for smokers

It's sad that I actually lol'ed at that PDF joke :(

^ i thought a PDF was a pedofile

yeah I do

Move to Cali... It's illegal to smoke inside buildings and depending on the establishment you gotta be far away when you do...

Depends.

Being a victom having to suffer through a childhood of having 2 parents who smoked 2 packs a day and me being the only family member to have asthma I might disagree. I also would disagree because when I get around smoke I usually always get sick with bronchitis...I hate smoking.

As for the ban it depends. Smoking and bars seem to go together usually, I think if the owner wants to have a smoking section AWAY from the non-smoking section then great. Heck, I don't really care if they have a all smoking bar/resturant as long as the POST IT in their ads and anything that would relate to their establishment.

I agree with you

im a smoker. and i think it IS a good law to have. those of you who dont smoke are jsut smart as hell to have never done it( or quit). but because we are idiots and smoke, regardless of all that crap it does. we still do it. you shouldnt have to put up with it.

No its not a good idea, I mean its easy to section it off, like front for non-smokers and back for those who choose to smoke. I think the dumbest thing is no smoking in bars now.

Also its a fact that you have to be around smoke for years for second hand smoke to affect you. I grew up around smoke and it hasn't affected me in any way.