Discussion Thread



After discussing this with Pearso, me and him decided to equally share running this game.

AAGOS2 = Alternative Air Game Of Skate 2

Like last game the rules were that the tricks were to be done with no comply or boneless or caveman, basically anything apart from nollie, hang ten, ollie, fakie ollie, siwtch ollie, tricks which use at least 1 foot to obtain air.

Rules


1. No ollies
2. Air must be obtained using different methods other than ollie based tricks.
3. The only freestyle trick allowed in this will be caspers and calf wraps, anything else you are unsure of will be discussed.
4. Tricks can be done stationary or rolling
5. Tricks must be done on flatground
6. If you use caveman, it must be the starting trick. You cannot bail and say you did the trick but did a caveman at the end, becaseause that's just cheating.
7. 4 days to match, then you will be given till the end of that day in GMT time zone
8. 3 days to set
9. The setting order will be decided by drawing names out of a hat.
10. No tail stops
11. You ARE allowed to do regular no complys or bonelesses.
12. No complys bonelesses and cavemans only, to get alternative air. No other methods of getting air is allowed.
13. No setting a previously set trick.
14. SOME toe drag is allowed, it will be decided at the time as to whether it counts or not.


Hand sign is this

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:nIHSWxIhgird0M:http://www.cardeologist.com

Order of setters:

MRCK
pbsk8er
Varial_222
skinny11
aronsamma
Sev7n
zerofirm13
Pearso
Sk8Almost
MOFAUX
Qtip
infernomax

6th.. again?! Hahahaha. That's 2 times in a row.

MRCK to set first :)

By the end of april 6th.

hurry up MRCK, i don't have school tomorrow.

I'm off this entire week, but the sooner the better MRCK

Im so glad im second to last [/sarcasm]


Again, I really wanna stress this without sounding like a ****. Do your best to actually get airborne from the footplant in your tricks.
After all, it IS called Alternative AIR GOS, not Alternative Stand On One Foot And Flip The Board With Your Hand GOS :D

GL sk8almost and skinny11

GL sk8almost and skinny11
thnx........varial can we primo

Sk8Almost you can not primo or railstand or freestyle.

Goddamit guess im not in this... ill do the next one though even if it is just boneless / N comply

Since i put Qtip in, would you like a spot?

Yere sure , ill try my best but i dont think ill last till my set though :P , its still alotta fun

Ahh this is gonna be interesting. Looking forward to finally playing MRCK, I didn't have the nuts to face him in ollie based flatground, because I realise I would have S-K-A-T-E about 10 times before he took a letter from my set, which would because he didn't have time to get to the computer lol. But yeah, this game should be good, can't wait for his set, also varial, caveman tricks are allowed in this aswell, not just bonelesses and no complys.

Ok, so guys, cavemans are allowed!

Alright im setting NEXT!!!!!!!!!
i have something easy in mind but maybe ill take it to the next level!!!!

HAHAHAHA!!!!

Guys i have a problem....it's raining outside so can i do it in my basement and it still can be moving? I think the answer will be a yes because it'll still be moving but who knows...:icon_clap

it's about to start snowing.... :(

^^ It seems to snow all year round where you live :p

^it does!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
it never stops!!!!!!!!!!!!

^thou if i can't find a way to do it not moving will it count....
im guessing the answer will be no it will not count but it's worth asking!
so?

I'm done with my classes for today, I'm going to have a short sesh and see what I can get on film, my set should be up in an hour and a half or so :)

^can't wait to see what it is no-comply 720 flip!?!?!?!?!?!?
HAHA that would be sick!

But what happens if i can't do it moving?Can i do it still?

No you have to be rolling. Look at all the tricks in AAGOS1 and I'm sure it is in the rules.

^can't wait to see what it is no-comply 720 flip!?!?!?!?!?!?
HAHA that would be sick!

I've done some no-comply 720 double flips in the past, but that's not what my set is going to be, I'll keep it rather simple :)

Yeah MRCK, keep it simple for em and just do a no comply 540 double flip :p haha

^yeah that's pretty simple that'll only take me about a year to learn but oh well.

Well ill find a way to get my tricks moving...ill set a bunch of wood and what not on the floor to make me move.

yo Varial_222 can we do
no complys/boneless flips
and other variations with them?

^^ It seems to snow all year round where you live :p

Well, in a few weeks, I'll have a week of perfect weather. After that, it'll ramp up to 90 degrees/90% humidity, which is completely unbearable.

^yeah but that is better than snow every 2-3 days and rain every other day!!
Having nice weather is a good thing but to hot isn't that bad just don't skate hard.
Thou when you have rain and snow you have to either be bored all day or shovel and kill yourself.

nah, the heat can get really bad. During the summer, I can only skate for about 15 minutes before starting to get dizzy and exhausted. I have to drink practically a gallon of Gatorade a day. Also, the humidity makes it impossible for your sweat to evaporate, and your lungs start to burn, as if you inhaled a bunch of water.

^ow sounds painful....although do you go to indoor parks?
If you have any...but what about pouring water onto your body? Like getting water and pouring it over onto your body?Like over your head and hands...not skateboard.
I do that a lot when it's really hot here (like never) that might be helpful try it.

no indoor parks here. i can get cooled down, but it won't stop the exhaustion.

^oh but at least you can skate.I can't and if im lucky it'll dry up in 2-3 days becuase this rain is becoming man crazy!

It's a shame I couldn't be in this one. But I am pleased with how after I handed the ownership over Varial has handled it well. As a few of you know, and many of you don't, I can't participate in anything skating related for about 2-3 months because I was diagnosed with appendicitis and have just had an appendacectomy. So I'm out for a while.

But this game looked like it showed a lot of promise, and the famous MRCK is in too!

Well I wish you all the best of luck, and I hope this game runs smoothly!

HAVE FUN GUYS!

Flip ;)

Oh skatinkrazy i can do my tricks stationary.
Read the AAGOS2 rules over it says they can be done stationary and rolling.

Oh skatinkrazy i can do my tricks stationary.
Read the AAGOS2 rules over it says they can be done stationary and rolling.
Yes, if someone sets it stationary you can do it stationary. but if someone sets it rolling you have to do it rolling. Sorry bud.

^oh no im sorry i never knew that lol we where both wrong in different ways.
Wait if someone does it rolling you have to do it rolling?
Or is it ok that you don't?

^oh no im sorry i never knew that lol we where both wrong in different ways.
Wait if someone does it rolling you have to do it rolling?
Or is it ok that you don't?

I believe you have to. Talk to Varial, pearso, and flip about it.

^alright thanks because i hope they say you don't have to because i have a carpeted basement and i can only do the trick rolling and then i don't continue rolling....
I think they'll say you don't have to.

Plywood? Outside?

If someone sets a trick rolling you have to do it rolling, or if they set it stationary you have to do it stationary.

longest.. hour and a half... ever...

Oh alright....
Well what if i do the trick rolling but i don't continue rolling but i land in the same way the trick is done?
What about that for a set trick?

You have to roll away a little bit. But we will see when the time comes.

^thanks man.

The game looks like it has a lot of dedicated skaters which will shape up to be a great game.

longest.. hour and a half... ever...

Yeah sorry, I haven't been able to get back to my computer as soon as I expected.

My set is up now, it's a no-comply 360 flip - not a no-comply 360 pressure flip but an actual 360 flip, basically you have to go for a popped no-comply 360 shove-it and unleash the flip by applying more pressure on the heel-side edge of the board with your front foot as you slide it off the board. I won't count it if you keep your front foot on the floor for too long or if you do several steps / hops before jumping back on the board, this trick has to be done smoothly.

Good luck ;)

^forget that i can't so that for my life!!!!!!!!!!

but don't give me a letter...yet...i wanna give it a try i've only landed that 1 time!
How do you expect me to do it again and then get it on vid the same time!!!!

How can you say you can't do it if you've never tried ? Seemingly complex tricks are usually easier than they look, so if I were you I'd try anyway, you've got nothing to lose :)

^yeah true thanks for the encouragement...
Would you mind making a trick tip for no comply 360 flips?
HAHA!That would be like giving a person a fre give in a letter(them not getting a letter is what i mean in easier terms)

im going to practice now hopefully i can land one.

Nice set MRCK :)

I have a question about this trick, is it all in your back foot? Like do you do you get the flip/spin with your back foot only or do you have to go for a regular 360 flip and then take your feet off the board?

it's all in the back foot, sort of like a toeflip.

Nice set MRCK, my match is uploading now.

it's all in the back foot, sort of like a toeflip.

That's not the way I do it, it's not a pressure flip of any kind, the flip has to be unleashed by applying the very right amount of pressure at the very right moment on the heel-side edge of the deck with the front foot toes as you slide your front foot off the board to the ground.

http://mrck.skyblog.com/pics/167041360.jpg

(see frame 2 & 3)

As I stated before, pressure 360 flips won't be counted (neither inward heel style ones nor toeflip style ones) :icon_bunc

A good idea would be to think of applying pressure both on the toe-side edge of the deck through your back foot toes and on the heel-side edge of the deck through your front foot toes, then pop as hard as possible so the board goes vertical then kind of twist your legs so you can land back on it.

I wouldn't call mine a pressure flip (you should be able to see it in a few minutes,) but just like you said, you need to put pressure on the side of the deck to get it going when you pop it. it doesn't flip much like a toeflip, and it needs to get pretty high to complete the flip.

So u mean that the front foot plays an important part in this trick,don't u put all ur weight on ur back foot for it?

Thanks MRCK for making that "trick tip" i just learned them but the sad thing is i can't get it on tape!!!!!

What i mean is every time i turn my camera off i would land 2 or 3 then i put it on and take a vid and i don't land one in 15 min and this keeps repeating!!!

Any tips on that?
Is is pressure?

oh and it also got me a big piece of skin pealed of of my leg like 1.5" its disgusting!!!

^ I find that trick to be based on the same mechanism as a catapult, basically you have to use as much of your weight as possible for the pop by resting most of it over your back leg, yet you have to wait until the very last minute to slide your front foot off which causes the board to spring up. It's not a no-comply pressure flip variation, but it does involve some good amount of pressure science to get the grasp of the technique and get the flip :)

^wow your smart....i would of never said anything like that unless i was in Science Class.But ill hopefully get one in ill bet ya there'll be one of me in there...Please let me land it please let me land it please let me land it!!!!

Well, the blizzard has started. It was starting to snow when I was out there skating (you can see snow fly in front of the lens in my match, which is now processed), but now it's out of control.

aronsamma, not to take anything away from your match because it was beautiful, but it looks more like a popped no-comply 360 toe flip than an actual no-comply 360 flip to me :icon_shru It may be because of your back foot positioning, or because of the angle, I don't know, I know that personally for a no-comply 360 flip I set my back foot all across the tail, my toes are nowhere near the heel-side edge of the deck, more like on the toe-side edge, it doesn't get the flip going at all, it just pops a vertical 360 shove-it with some form of extra twist so the heel-side edge of the deck sticks to the front foot toes better, then the front foot does all the work when sliding off the board to the ground. The back foot doesn't even start the flip, it doesn't play any role in it, it just pops the tail in some way so the front foot toes can unleash it better. I'm slightly embarassed since your match looked good and you don't seem to be able to skate anymore now, but I don't think it should count, it doesn't seem to be the same trick.

I thought it looked excactly the same as your MRCK. In my eyes everything went the same...

Yeah... the technique is a little different, but I would say it's still the same trick.

Anyway, in the third frame of the sequence you posted, your front foot is already off the board, but it doesn't look like it started to flip yet.

I don't know... I don't see a problem.

After watching is match again I can tell that his match was definitely a no-comply 360 toe flip, because of his front foot positioning. skatinkrazy you're right to some extent, the board spins and flips the same for both tricks but the flip isn't unleashed the same way at all.

I'll go and upload a clip of another no-comply 360 flip in uber slow-mo, it's a hard one to explain :)

Holy shat, nice set MRCK! Jeez, we've taken off with harder tricks than me and flip were ending with last game! No slow stuff to start off lol. I can tell this is going to be a tough and enjoyable game.

There you go : http://media.putfile.com/dont-comply-to-gravity

Watch it a few times and study the back foot action and the front foot action separately.

Anyway, in the third frame of the sequence you posted, your front foot is already off the board, but it doesn't look like it started to flip yet.

I have to admit that this sequence does a pretty poor job when it comes to explaining the mechanism of my trick, basically in frame 3 the board hasn't started to flip yet, but it does have received some pressure (see frame 2) which interferes with the way the board springs up and adds a slow flip to the motion which starts in frames 4-5-6-7. My back foot just pops the tail.

I say your trick is different because it's a no-comply 360 toeflip and mine is a no-comply 360 flip, even though both tricks look pretty much the same they're not done the same way at all. I really don't want to come out mean or anything, it's just that I can't count it.

After watching is match again I can tell that his match was definitely a no-comply 360 toe flip, because of his front foot positioning. skatinkrazy you're right to some extent, the board spins and flips the same for both tricks but the flip isn't unleashed the same way at all.

I'll go and upload a clip of another no-comply 360 flip in uber slow-mo, it's a hard one to explain :)
Well you obviously know much more then me. So I guess your right.

That really sucks aron about having your blizzard now so you can't match :(.

i would say the difference is negligible, and I planned on being fairly lenient with my sets, but i'll give your way a try, i suppose.

I watched the video, and there's a frame where your front foot is completely off the board, but your back foot still has solid contact with it, and the back two wheels are still touching the ground. I don't see how the front foot is doing anything, but i guess i'll take your word for it.

Do I have to use the whole spring motion thing or can I just do a tre flip the way I normally do them but take a step and jump?

i can only toe 360 flip i can't do it the real way...

im still practicing to get that trick on vid.

Great its gonna be snowing here for 5 days... I might be able to film the match in my basement.

^moving or stationary?

It's snowing everywhere where i live where you live and where aron lives!!!
I really hate snow and rain!!

^moving or stationary?

It's snowing everywhere where i live where you live and where aron lives!!!
I really hate snow and rain!!

Moving. My basement is a big cracked concrete hole.

I hate rain and snow too haha. It was hailing this afternoon.

^lucky!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Varial can you make an exception of me to not do any trick moving well some might be but most of them in the begging wont so can you make an exception of me?

doing a no comply trick stationary is nothing like doing it moving. It really wouldn't be fair to anyone else if you were allowed to do that.

^lucky!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Varial can you make an exception of me to not do any trick moving well some might be but most of them in the begging wont so can you make an exception of me?
No, if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.
Or, in edited words
If you aren't good enough to match the tricks, then get out of the game.

We can't just excuse someone to have an advantage because they aren't as good as everyone else.

Wow hard set, ill try this this afternoon ... looks extremely tough

^lucky!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Varial can you make an exception of me to not do any trick moving well some might be but most of them in the begging wont so can you make an exception of me?

The amount of times i have told you that you have to do it the way it was set!

I watched the video, and there's a frame where your front foot is completely off the board, but your back foot still has solid contact with it, and the back two wheels are still touching the ground. I don't see how the front foot is doing anything, but i guess i'll take your word for it.

Well I know it sounds weird, it's an awkward concept to grasp, basically think of it as a slightly diagonal (backside) no-comply zero flip during which the front foot interferes with the pop while sliding off the griptape side of the board, which adds a little amount of pressure on the heel-side edge somewhere close to the nose and results in the board starting to flip slowly once it loses contact with both feet. Think of it as a catapult, the board has to start flipping with an extra delay while it springs up, it's a matter of timing and coordination of your feet, and I swear it has nothing to do at all with a no-comply 360 toe flip except the way the board flips.

It's not a matter of being lenient or strict, and I don't want to sound mean, it's just that it's not the same trick and both have an entirely different technique, which I know for a fact since I can do both. I'd love to be able to count it since it was a flawless no-comply 360 toe flip, but I can't because the difference between both tricks is practically far from being negligible, it would be like counting a 360 toe flip as a match for a 360 flip in an ollie-based game of SKATE, sorry <bag:)

Wouldn't a 360 toe flip have the same flip and spin as a 360 flip?

Wouldn't a 360 toe flip have the same flip and spin as a 360 flip?

Sure it would but it's not done the same way at all. You wouldn't count a pressure flip as an inward heelflip or a late back foot flip as an ollie kickflip would you ? :)

ah, so in this instance aronsammas was done as a pressure flip?

And yours wasn't because the front foot was involved? Or it it the other way around?

Yeah, aronsamma's trick was a pressure flip (he put pressure with his back foot on the heel-side edge of the deck then let it go), while mine was basically the same thing as a regular 360 flip except that you don't have to slide your front foot up since there's no ollie involved, you just pop the tail down as hard as you can (so the board starts to go vertical like it would for a zero flip) while sliding your front foot down and off the board, which affects the pop and unleashes the flip as soon as the board loses contact with both feet and springs up. Both are entirely different tricks.

I have one last argument for you MRCK.

Last night, I watched all your videos frame-by-frame, and they all have at least one frame where your front foot is off the board and yet the board was still flat. Because of this, I'm practically certain that your back foot is doing all the work here.

I can explain why it doesn't feel like it, too. Since your flip is practically vertical, half the flip comes from centrifugal force, without you even trying to do so. Every time you make a rectangular object back flip, it twists around half way in the air to make itself harder to spin. That means that you're only doing a half toeflip with your back foot, and since it's so high, it's very subtle.

Mine, on the other hand, is done much more horizontal, which means that my toeflip is more obvious, since I didn't have the advantage of the added force.

I'm about 97% certain that we're only arguing over the angle of the plane on which my board is spinning, and not the trick itself.

Also, if you put all that pressure on the heel side of the deck, when it springs up, it should flip the opposite direction.

If you STILL disagree, then I'll accept that and do my best to match, but it's still snowing outside, with about 4 inches piled up already.

I see where you're coming from but I still disagree - I really don't want to sound like a whining kid because I know that you're in good faith, but I do know exactly how my trick works, for having experienced a lot of different ways to do it in the past and having endured an awful lot of trials and errors over the past two years with it, I know exactly what my feet do. I reckon that its concept may be awkward to grasp though.

It doesn't just 'feel like' it involves my front foot, I know for a fact that it does - when I don't use my front foot toes properly the board goes berserk after the pop and completes a vertical 360 pressure flip (inward heel style) every time (which, by the way, tells a lot about the back foot positioning), my back foot toes are set on the toe-side edge of the deck in such a way that there's no way that you can even consider going for a toe flip from that position. My front foot is almost on the nose, toes on the heel-side edge, and I do have to put a lot of pressure on it through my toes to get the board to flip - it almost feels like I'm stamping on a cigarette butt). The front foot isn't supposed to flip the board right away, it just applies a lot of pressure on the heel-side edge in the start of the nose which only gets released during the pop (which explains why the board is still flat as long as my back foot is still somehow in contact with the griptape), hence the importance of the timing and coordination in order to influence the centrifugal force.

I can understand where you're coming from because the mechanism of this trick is pretty obscure and is particularly far from being obvious when seen from the outside. But when you can do it you can tell that it's WAY different from a no-comply 360 toe flip, that's why I may sound very nitpicking but trust me I'm not, I know how my trick works, and it's not the same thing as your match at all (and again, I'm not trying to take away anything from it because it looked damn good, it would obviously have counted if it wasn't a different trick).:icon_bunc

Hopefully I don't come out too much like a whining kid, but I know exactly how both my trick and your trick works and it just wouldn't be fair to count yours since it's not done the same way at all.

I wouldn't usually be complaining either, but it's going to snow until sunday, so you can see why I'd do my best to avoid a letter. This is what caused my argument:

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m188/aronphoto/nocomplytre.jpg

Front foot's off, but the back wheels are still touching.

Anyway, like I said, I'll concede now and do my best to get another match. I have a 10 foot long sheltered porch, and there's about a 4% chance that I could film the trick there.

Hmm. Very nice trick, MRCK. I'll be having fun with this haha

This is what caused my argument:

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m188/aronphoto/nocomplytre.jpg

Front foot's off, but the back wheels are still touching.

It's a good thing that you post this pic because you see, this is exactly the key moment of the trick :) Front foot's off, but it's done applying pressure on the heel side of the deck and the board is about to spring up, the back foot is going to lose contact with the tail and the pressure is going to get released all at once, which will cause the flip.

Awkward concept eh ? :confused:

(I knew I should have set something else :tongue:)

Very awkward indeed. I went out and tried these. And smacked myself in the face, twice. :icon_redf

****!!!!! I just got like 4 inches of snow this morning. I don't know if I'm gonna get this match in. But I'll try :)

We're around 6 inches here.

sorry for posting in the trick thread i had a brain fart lol...

i have never done a no comply in my life but im going to still try for the next bit cause who nows i might or might not get it.

i dont think i can get the 360 but i know i can get the flip and a 180 so ill try my best at this trick

mrck isnt going easy :]

mrck isnt going easy :]
Not at all, he is usually pretty leniant.

I'm ready to take a letter.

I went out in the snow (driveway was still only wet) and tried it with my old scrap setup, and I couldn't even get a half flip with the technique described... I couldn't even come up with a way for that trick to work, based in my years of Physics classes. In fact, the more pressure I put on the heel side of the deck with my front foot, the more the board tended to flip towards the TOESIDE. I can explain that just fine, but I can't imagine a reason why that would actually HELP to make the board flip toward the heelside.

It's sort of like winding up backside, starting to unwind... then doing a backside 180; or pushing down on the end of a catapult, then expecting it to fly further down when you let go. More directly, it's like putting pressure on the heelside with your front foot before doing a standard pressure flip. By building up pressure on the heel side in the front, it also builds up pressure on the toeside in the back (since you obviously keep the board level.) When the front foot comes off, the only pressure left is on the toeside in the back, causing an inward heelflip motion. I can't see a reason why this would be any different.

I think I could probably come up with a clip that looks like MRCK's, but I wouldn't honestly be able to say that my front foot did anything.

I'm not saying that YOUR front foot isn't doing anything, MRCK, but I know that any front foot involvement from me does nothing but hinder the flip. There must be some sort of reason for what happens, but if I can't figure it out, there's no way I'll be able to match. Especially if I have to do it in ankle-deep snow. :P

I'm ready to take a letter.

I went out in the snow (driveway was still only wet) and tried it with my old scrap setup, and I couldn't even get a half flip with the technique described... I couldn't even come up with a way for that trick to work, based in my years of Physics classes. In fact, the more pressure I put on the heel side of the deck with my front foot, the more the board tended to flip towards the TOESIDE. I can explain that just fine, but I can't imagine a reason why that would actually HELP to make the board flip toward the heelside.

It's sort of like winding up backside, starting to unwind... then doing a backside 180; or pushing down on the end of a catapult, then expecting it to fly further down when you let go. More directly, it's like putting pressure on the heelside with your front foot before doing a standard pressure flip. By building up pressure on the heel side in the front, it also builds up pressure on the toeside in the back (since you obviously keep the board level.) When the front foot comes off, the only pressure left is on the toeside in the back, causing an inward heelflip motion. I can't see a reason why this would be any different.

I think I could probably come up with a clip that looks like MRCK's, but I wouldn't honestly be able to say that my front foot did anything.

I'm not saying that YOUR front foot isn't doing anything, MRCK, but I know that any front foot involvement from me does nothing but hinder the flip. There must be some sort of reason for what happens, but if I can't figure it out, there's no way I'll be able to match. Especially if I have to do it in ankle-deep snow. :P

Yeah its snowing bad here. And even when i was skating in my basement, I couldn'y really get the flip. I was doing no comply inverted 360 shove its lol. I might take a letter on this, how many more days do i officially have to match?

More directly, it's like putting pressure on the heelside with your front foot before doing a standard pressure flip. By building up pressure on the heel side in the front, it also builds up pressure on the toeside in the back (since you obviously keep the board level.) When the front foot comes off, the only pressure left is on the toeside in the back, causing an inward heelflip motion. I can't see a reason why this would be any different.

You don't have to put pressure on the toe-side of the deck with your back foot for this trick as you would for a standard pressure flip, that's not the way it works, forget about your back foot and just set it somewhere in the middle of the tail at a 45 degree angle, so your toes rest on the toe side of the deck, rest most of your weight over your back leg, and get ready to pop the highest no-comply 360 shove-it / no-comply zero flip thing you can. Focus on the fact that your board has to spring up and go vertical, it may help to put some pressure on the toe-side to help the 360 degree spin but NEVER, never think of it as a standard pressure flip or it's going to start flipping inward heelflip style as soon as you pop indeed.

About the front foot now - set it up at a 45 degree angle somewhere close to the nose, basically have your front foot toes over your heel side front wheel, heel hanging off the deck, and keep your front leg stiff while resting most of your weight over your back foot.

Build up as much strength as you can on the tail, then slide your front foot off to the ground while gently brushing down on the heel-side of the board with your big toe in the same motion and you smack the tail down. Try to get the board to spring up as high as possible, then it's just trial and error, experiment with different foot positioning and stuff.

Basically focus on the front foot action mostly and don't try to put too much pressure on the toe-side edge of the deck with your back foot - just use it to pop so the board springs up as high / vertical as possible, then toy around with the front foot action.

I was terrifed when I saw MRCK was in this.

Haha jk. No one has matched this yet, have they? Unless you count aron's (which i would :))

Alright, this is what I've gathered. The way a no-comply 360 flip works is, when you release your foot off the heel side of the deck, it pops more toe side, that means it will bounce back in the other direction, and spin kickflip wise. Aronsamma however, uses only the back foot, and pops it like one would a frontside pressure flip, except he pops it backside. Although the rotation is the same, they are two very different tricks.

No, if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.
Or, in edited words
If you aren't good enough to match the tricks, then get out of the game.

We can't just excuse someone to have an advantage because they aren't as good as everyone else.

alright fine.

Ill try hard to get them moving other than that im fine.

You don't have to put pressure on the toe-side of the deck with your back foot for this trick as you would for a standard pressure flip, that's not the way it works, forget about your back foot and just set it somewhere in the middle of the tail at a 45 degree angle, so your toes rest on the toe side of the deck, rest most of your weight over your back leg, and get ready to pop the highest no-comply 360 shove-it / no-comply zero flip thing you can.

You can't put pressure on one side of the board and stay straight. if i try to keep my back foot neutral and my front foot toward the heelside, i start to turn immediately. That was the point of my pressure flip analogy. If you put pressure on the heel side with your front foot, there will be pressure on the toe side by your back foot.

Trust me, there's no way I'm trying to make it flip toward the toeside, but the more weight i put on my front foot, the more the board flips like a heelflip. The best i could do is set my feet up more like yours and just do the same thing I did, but more vertical.

You can't put pressure on one side of the board and stay straight. if i try to keep my back foot neutral and my front foot toward the heelside, i start to turn immediately. That was the point of my pressure flip analogy. If you put pressure on the heel side with your front foot, there will be pressure on the toe side by your back foot.

Trust me, there's no way I'm trying to make it flip toward the toeside, but the more weight i put on my front foot, the more the board flips like a heelflip. The best i could do is set my feet up more like yours and just do the same thing I did, but more vertical.

The thing is, you shouldn't put your weight on your front foot, like 75% of your weight should be on your back foot for this trick, your front leg has to be stiff so your toes keep the board flat until you pop the no-comply. You have to pop so the board flies up in front of you kind of, and now that you mention it it may be a good idea to start slightly turning frontside before you release the pressure and the board springs up, I think I do it in the clip of my set right before the pop, it may help the board stick better to the front foot toes when you slide your front foot off (because of the vertical / backside pop) and allow more control on the flip :)

I'd recommand you to watch the clip of my set again and study the way my front foot comes off the board in the slow mo part by playing it over and over again until you get the grasp of it, I find it rather obvious myself but it may be because I can do the trick and thus I know how it works.

I've watched it frame by frame plenty of times, MRCK.

This set is like me setting a boneless 360 varial, but saying that all the spin comes from the back foot, like a pop shove it, but i just keep my arm limp and let the board pull it around.

Also, if you're flicking the board with your front foot, wouldn't this trick just be a 360 flip footplant anyway?

Also, if you're flicking the board with your front foot, wouldn't this trick just be a 360 flip footplant anyway?

Yeah.. that's a very good point. I went out and tried it a little while ago and just don't get it, at all.

my friends sk8almost and skinny11 can do them, but they have to use there toes to flick it. i guess that wouldnt count?

my friends sk8almost and skinny11 can do them, but they have to use there toes to flick it. i guess that wouldnt count?
I don't know, I don't think so though

I've watched it frame by frame plenty of times, MRCK.

This set is like me setting a boneless 360 varial, but saying that all the spin comes from the back foot, like a pop shove it, but i just keep my arm limp and let the board pull it around.

Also, if you're flicking the board with your front foot, wouldn't this trick just be a 360 flip footplant anyway?

No it wouldn't since you don't ollie into it then plant your front foot on the ground as the board spins and flips, the front foot originates the flip when sliding off the board to the ground for the no-comply with a slight ankle motion so your toes brush down on the heel side of the deck, which affects the rotation as the board springs up.

And I still insist on the fact that a no-comply 360 flip and a no-comply 360 toe flip are completely different tricks, I may sound outrageously nitpicking to everyone reading this thread or even stubborn to some but trust me, if you can't understand how the trick works it's just because you haven't tried hard enough to find out by yourself, take my word for it and go practice it more, try some more different foot positionings and everything until you get it, I'm ready to offer as much help as needed but please, stop acting as if I didn't know how my trick worked, just because you fail to understand how I do it doesn't mean that I can't.

I'm rather pissed that I can't count your match aronsamma (because I'd want to, but it's not a matter of lenientness nor a matter of not knowing what I'm talking about), but when I tell you it's a different trick then take my word for it, I'm the most lenient guy ever when it comes to matches in games of SKATE, knowing how my trick works I have reasons to think that yours doesn't count (unfortunately), you're a nice guy, I'm sad to have to get into such an argument but I have to because it wouldn't be fair to count a different trick as a match.

Again, I'm all ready to offer as much help as needed for this trick, I don't want anyone to get a letter especially when it's a matter of bad weather.

zeroNYskater : if it's a different trick it won't be counted, and no-comply pressure 360 flips / 360 toe flips / 360 underflips are obviously different from no-comply 360 flips. What do your friends do exactly ?

If Aron's doesnt count, I dont think i can get it the "right" way either lol, Also, it keeps snowing so.... I'll probably be taking a letter.

I really think that arons should count. I don't know as much about it as you guys but they look exactly the same. Why the big arguement guys?

I really think that arons should count. I don't know as much about it as you guys but they look exactly the same. Why the big arguement guys?

The board flips and spins the same, but his trick is done by applying pressure on the heel side of the deck with his back foot (which is another trick called a no-comply 360 toe flip) while mine is an actual no-comply 360 flip (pop with back foot, flip with front foot). Don't get me wrong, I'd really want to count his match, but I can't because it's a different trick despite the fact that it flips / spins the same and it's not just a slight difference of technique.

Let me make an analogy here. If I set an inward heelflip, and somebody does a pressure flip, it may spin the same, but it's a different trick. Of course I can't inward heel or pressure flip, but that's beside the point. I've tried a few no comply 360 flips and the spin is definitely caused by the front foot.

Because of a freak combination of low humidity and wind, my driveway dried, so I went out and tried your new suggestions. I came very close to it before twisting my ankle pretty bad. Then it started snowing again.

Anyway, the way I started to do it, the front foot is very important, but it didn't actually cause the flip. I watched my video from today and although it looked very similar to yours (i bet you would have counted it), the front foot only helped keep my weight back so that i could get a more vertical flip. It made a difference based on where I put it, like you said, but I didn't actually flick with it. Also, when I turned my body a little bit frontside, the forward pop of my back foot turned into an ever-so-slightly sideways pop, which, when coupled with the vertical rotation and the height, allowed for a flip. It felt a lot different, but it was still back-footed. Yours may somehow be different, but they looked VERY similar.

I don't want to argue with you either, because I really like your skating and I think you're a cool guy. Normally, I wouldn't mind refilming for you, but my snow-induced free time allowed me to pick apart your clips and really examine them. When I did, I kept seeing the frame I posted in every clip, which shows a lack of flick. If it's hiding in there somewhere, that's fine, but I didn't feel like I should be held to something I can't see.

I'd be interested in seeing footage of your new way to do the trick, may you upload it somewhere please (if you still have it of course) ? :)

About the flick, I reckon that it's a really subtle and hardly noticable ankle motion, here's a sequence on which it's a little more obvious :

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q311/mrck41/nocomply360flipseqaron.jpg

Look at the way my front foot slides off the board, the toes apply pressure on the heel side of the deck on frame 2 which gets released when my foot gets out of the way on frame 3 (notice the ankle flick from frame 2 to frame 4), which interferes with the way the board springs up. The board tends to want to flip more towards the toe-side at the beginning (before the pop actually gets released) because of the back foot action which actually makes it stick better to the front foot toes (from frame 2 to frame 3), then as soon as it loses contact with it and the pop occurs the board reacts to the original influence of the original flick of front foot and starts flipping towards the heel side while it springs up (frames 4 - 5 - 6 - 7). Hence the importance of your feet coordination, your timing is really important for this trick :)

Hopefully I made everything crystal clear, feel free to ask for help or more info if you need.

I didn't bother to capture any of it.

It seems like the toe side comes up a little bit, so when you pop it straight down, you even it back out, starting the flip.

Is that what you're saying? If so, we're arguing the same thing :)

My point is that your flip is directly caused by the back foot after the front one tilts it, and my match is merely more obvious in the back foot involvement.

I'm sick of arguing in any case, I'll just have to come up with an extra-hard set to make up for it :D

It seems like the toe side comes up a little bit, so when you pop it straight down, you even it back out, starting the flip.

Is that what you're saying? If so, we're arguing the same thing :)

My point is that your flip is directly caused by the back foot after the front one tilts it, and my match is merely more obvious in the back foot involvement.


What evens the toe-side back out is the extra amount of pressure applied on the heel-side by the front foot toes while sliding it off the top of the deck (see my front foot action in frame 2 3 4), the back foot doesn't directly cause the flip. Its action definately involves some slight amount pressure, but it occurs on the toe-side of the deck, in order to have the heel-side stick to the front foot toes better (frame 2 - 3) to optimize its action.

So while I agree with the fact that my back foot may be playing a role in the mechanisms of this trick, I disagree with your statement that the flip is directly caused by the back foot (which is why I would call your match a no-comply 360 toe-flip since you apply direct pressure on the heel side with your back foot, while I put pressure on the toe-side with my back foot then unleash the flip on the heel-side edge with my front foot, therefore I can't count it since it's not done the same way at all, it's a different trick). I'd say my trick is about 20% in the back foot (for the pop) and 80% in the front foot (for the flip) :)

I'm sick of arguing in any case, I'll just have to come up with an extra-hard set to make up for it :D

So am I, so bring it on, I need some challenge :icon_hug:

aww man, the spaces arew full are they?

I get the trick now! Woot!
I think.

Question, are switch tricks allowed at any point in the game?

No it wouldn't since you don't ollie into it then plant your front foot on the ground as the board spins and flips, the front foot originates the flip when sliding off the board to the ground for the no-comply with a slight ankle motion so your toes brush down on the heel side of the deck, which affects the rotation as the board springs up.

And I still insist on the fact that a no-comply 360 flip and a no-comply 360 toe flip are completely different tricks, I may sound outrageously nitpicking to everyone reading this thread or even stubborn to some but trust me, if you can't understand how the trick works it's just because you haven't tried hard enough to find out by yourself, take my word for it and go practice it more, try some more different foot positionings and everything until you get it, I'm ready to offer as much help as needed but please, stop acting as if I didn't know how my trick worked, just because you fail to understand how I do it doesn't mean that I can't.

I'm rather pissed that I can't count your match aronsamma (because I'd want to, but it's not a matter of lenientness nor a matter of not knowing what I'm talking about), but when I tell you it's a different trick then take my word for it, I'm the most lenient guy ever when it comes to matches in games of SKATE, knowing how my trick works I have reasons to think that yours doesn't count (unfortunately), you're a nice guy, I'm sad to have to get into such an argument but I have to because it wouldn't be fair to count a different trick as a match.

Again, I'm all ready to offer as much help as needed for this trick, I don't want anyone to get a letter especially when it's a matter of bad weather.

zeroNYskater : if it's a different trick it won't be counted, and no-comply pressure 360 flips / 360 toe flips / 360 underflips are obviously different from no-comply 360 flips. What do your friends do exactly ?
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me and skinny10 flick with ours toes that cant be counted right

I get the trick now! Woot!
I think.

Question, are switch tricks allowed at any point in the game?
Yeah man there's no restrictions on the difficulty or how you do the trick, it's not a beginner game (i'm glad there's no beginner AAGOS game) so cut loose!

this sucks i cant flick with the heel. I flip it perfectly but its with my toes.

i can't do it and i have no time....

Give me a letter

lol it keeps snowing here! Give me a letter i guess... I can only do by doing the whole flip with my back foot anyway.

^me 2 and it's also snowing and raining here....

Well it's actually clearing up really quickly!

yeah, how about we all take a letter really quick so we can move on. The only decent weather day on the horizon is monday :(

well MRCK its like a frontside no comply 360 flip, with pressure applied to the toes near the edge of the concave to flip it, along with the 360.

^i have no idea what you just said...

Please explain?

yeah, how about we all take a letter really quick so we can move on. The only decent weather day on the horizon is monday :(

Dude it is non-stop snowing here hahaha

this sucks i cant flick with the heel. I flip it perfectly but its with my toes.

Noone said that you had to flick with the heel, you just have to flip it with your front foot toes, if you flip it with your back foot then you're doing a no-comply 360 pressure flip, which isn't the trick I set, so I obviously can't count it.

well MRCK its like a frontside no comply 360 flip, with pressure applied to the toes near the edge of the concave to flip it, along with the 360.

Frontside ? My trick spins backside, anyway you seem to be describing a no-comply 360 pressure inward heelflips, which is once again different from the trick I set, there I can't count it (despite the fact that your trick is a cool one nonetheless :)).

It's the opposite here, it's so amazingly hot. I'm sitting in my boxers with a fan pointing at me drinking an ice cold 7-up and I still feel hot. On topic, I think I matched the trick, I need to look at it in slo-mo though to make sure.

http://media.putfile.com/No-Comply-360-Flip
I need someone to tell me if that's right.

Sorry, that flipped the wrong way.

Lmao figures. I'll go tomorrow morning and try to get them to flip the other way.

can we all just take the letter no1 else is going to get it every1 has S except for Qtip, and MRCK

Qtip's didn't count. Today is the last day to match anyway... There are only about 8 hours left.

LMAO yeah sk8almost cant do it either im sure.

just move on i guess, i mean sheesh isnt the matching time over?

Does everyone agree that we should move on? Or is anyone still attempting it?

I'm ready to move on.

I'm going to try the trick a bit more, but whoever else has to set now can just post it anyways.

I have well over a foot of snow here, so lets just move on.

WAit so is it my turn to set now?

I was out there for an hour trying it differently, using the exact same technique as MRCK, and after a while I landed one. I come here to upload it and guess what, IT'S STILL FLIPPING IN THE OTHER DIRECTION. So yeah, move on.

yeah, pb, it's your turn. Go go go.

gud were startin i cant jump on it and i do it the wrong side anyway like zeronyskater saw me do at the park so0o0 just go let the next person go

Alright tomorrow it'll be up ill try to make it an intermediate level kinda thing so i have harder tricks to do later and not do the really hard tricks in the begging and have really easy tricks in the end.So let me get it tomorrow it'll be up at about 1:00 PM Eastern Time Zone

Yeah move on, matching is over now anyway, it finished 45 minutes ago. So everyone takes a letter but MRCK... wow at least I'm not behind :P

Ok, i will edit my sig now, pbsk8er to set.

^alright ill have it in by today....

well ill try to make it fairly intermediate but well i have 3 choices of what to do.I'm not gonna name them but im not sure which one i will do.

So ill have it in really early

Looking forward to it :)

Well i might go now to my basement...

It's a little early thou i might wait ot ill go down now.

Edit:Gotta do my work first :( :( :(

alright i got it all i gotta do is upload it...

"please wait"

have you got your set now?

EDIT: ok, what is it, and is it uploaded? :p

^sorry about that it took a while...

well here it is...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=h20sFwwhGeo

it's a Boneless double handflip w/body varail going the opposite way&1/2 piviot
i thought adding half of a pivot would make it harder

Well a boneless is not done from tail stop, but anyway we will just do it exactly like you, and a half pivot, unusual :D

Oh well, everryone just do it exactly like pbsk8er.

I wouldn't call that a boneless...

I would have been much happier if you posted this about 10 minutes earlier, before I went out and re-twisted my ankle. :(

^sorry...feel better and get the trick done!!!

Wait i thought thats how a boneless is suppose to be done....

How do you do a "real" boneless?

in one motion. You did a tailstop, then stepped off, then jumped. You need to slide your foot off as you start to jump.

Do we have to do it like him or can we do an actual boneless?

i think you might have to do it my way?

Hopefully you have to do it my way well because my was is style!

Do we have to do it like him or can we do an actual boneless?

Yeah PBS you didnt even really get air, you just tail stopped, stood on one foot and flipped the board with your hand. That wasn't a boneless...

^well varial said you have to do it my way...


AND YEAH I DID GET AIR!!!!!

^well varial said you have to do it my way...


AND YEAH I DID GET AIR!!!!!

Your way wasn't incorporating a real boneless and that is technically against the rules. And when I said you didnt get air i meant you did no part of the trick in the air, you flipped it with your hand while standing on your foot and jumped back on.

^ no i did a body vairal in the air

so that counts and varial is sleeping right now so wait till tomorrow to see if it's ok.

RE-SET.
That shouldn't count at all. 1/2 pivots are weird as well.

^ no i did a body vairal in the air

so that counts and varial is sleeping right now so wait till tomorrow to see if it's ok.

I went in my basement and filmed a video to show you what i mean (and i think everyone means) by a "real" boneless. It's uploaded and processing right now. I'll edit this post with it when its done.

^alright but i think he will still accept mine...

i never knew what a real boneless was i always thought it was what i did in my vid.

that had to be posibly the worst boneless style ive ever seen

^well i wasn't correctly notified how the best boneless is done...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m48g6guLlOA

that should help you with your bonelesses

Yeah, that's a manly boneless.

^well it really did help me thanks for bringing it up.

I still think he's gonna say yes to keep mine...

He said so in the begging he said you guys have to do it like me

But you didn't do a boneless bud. You did a tailstop, then used your hand to flip the board. The rules say must be a boneless or no comply.

^well it really did help me thanks for bringing it up.

I still think he's gonna say yes to keep mine...

He said so in the begging he said you guys have to do it like me

But what you did wasn't a real trick. Any one can tail stop and stand on one foot while flipping the board. That takes no skill. If we all did it like you, no one would ever get a letter.

Im still waiting for my example of a real boneless to upload. Youtube takes so damn long :(

^youtube does take long...
But he'll probably still say yes and who knows maybe not everyone can do what i did.

skatincrazy is right u broke the rules and u should have to do another trick or do BONELESS

C'mon buddy... u call that a boneless?

If the trick isn't right and his time is up for setting, he should receive a letter.

No, because he did a boneless, but it was just from tailstop, maybe it is not even from tailstop, but he still did it.

My match is up btw.

just do it like him itll be easy as hell its basically a give-me match

aronsamma your match shouldn't count seeing as you did the pivot on the nose instead of the tail.

bah! i did the hard way, didn't i?

Lol my example of a boneless is finally uploaded. I suppose its too late though... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMy2pAzNplY


I refuse to match this set. It is against the rules. If that was how you did a boneless, how would you ever do it down gaps and off ramps? Going to tailstop and standing on one foot is a disgrace to old skool. If that is what passes as a boneless in this, I'll glady withdraw from this competition.

rematched.

Told you guys it would count...

sorry about it thou i didn't know how to do a "proper" boneless I'll fix myself next time.

Guys, it is counting!

He only named the trick wrong, it is still a trick.

Yeah guys i just named it wrong thats all it anit no biggy

A "tailstop boneless" is ridiculous. Take me out of the game.

^wow your lame...

I expected more of you...
I guess i was wrong.

^wow your lame...

I expected more of you...
I guess i was wrong.

I'm lame? I expected more of you. Considering you entered this game, I expected you to be able to boneless. I guess I was wrong. At least I don't go around posting topics saying i can switch tre and all this ****, and then post videos looking like this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=h20sFwwhGeo
You almost fell off your board pushing for ****s sake.

Oh and I loved your topic about "god" being capitalized. Good to see some people are still so ignorant and intolerant.
people that believe in other gods go to hell don't be one of them and spread the false statement.
Try actually moving when you do tricks and if you hate that people care so much if you landed a trick in a picture, DON'T POST THEM!

I hate to be such an ******* but you asked for it.

^sorry.....

That was kinda harsh....

^sorry.....

That was kinda harsh....

What was? Haha dude i dont really mean to cause some bad blood here, im sorry too :D

I still wanna be taken out of the game though.

I agree with Mofaux. The rules were simple. Only ways of getting air are bonelesses, cavemans and no-complys. Yes it may have still been a trick, but it was neither a boneless, no comply or caveman. Varial, I don't want to overrule your decision, but since we are both in charge of the game, and we both have different decisions, I think it's pretty fair that it doesn't count, seeing as though everyone else thinks it shouldnt count.

Reset pbsk8er15

This is unfair on the people who have already matched though, it was a boneless, just from tailstop.

And zerofirm, you are supposed to go in to tailstop, you pivoted off the nose instead of the tail, you pivoted the wrong way and you pivoted a full pivot instead of half.

People have already stated how to properly do a boneless, and that wasn't a boneless....

That can be classed as a tailstop boneless.

I love how this is adressed after people have matched.

So we have to match this even though its against the rules? how much time left in hours?

75 hours exactly.

And it is not against the rules, it is a boneless done from tailstop.

1. No ollies
2. Air must be obtained using different methods other than ollie based tricks.
3. The only freestyle trick allowed in this will be caspers and calf wraps, anything else you are unsure of will be discussed.
4. Tricks can be done stationary or rolling
5. Tricks must be done on flatground
6. If you use caveman, it must be the starting trick. You cannot bail and say you did the trick but did a caveman at the end, becaseause that's just cheating.
7. 4 days to match, then you will be given till the end of that day in GMT time zone
8. 3 days to set
9. The setting order will be decided by drawing names out of a hat.
10. No tail stops
11. You ARE allowed to do regular no complys or bonelesses.
12. No complys or bonelesses only, to get alternative air. No other methods of getting air is allowed.
13. No setting a previously set trick.
14. SOME toe drag is allowed, it will be decided at the time as to whether it counts or not.

Ehm....

I was supposed to be more specific by saying tailstop landings.

Gah, hard decision.

so does it count?

so does it count?
Dude just film something else in case it doesn't count.

Well rules are rules i suppose, but the decision is, do the ppl who have matched this have to match again? It is unfair to those people.

i don't mind matching another trick, that one took me all of one try... not a big deal.

Is it such a big deal to go and match this? No offence pbsk8er but i am pretty sure that most if not all of you can match this, then we can move this game along...

So don't sit here posting your arguements just go out and get a match and i will specify these rules in much more detail once the deadline is up and the matches have come in.

Yeah, it would be a problem to have to rematch if the original set actually took skills, but since it's the kind of trick you can learn in two tries I don't think it would hurt too much to have to go film something else, would it ?

But again, for everyone complaining about the trick, since it's dead easy why don't you go get it on film so we can just move on to the next set ? Then everyone would be happy :)

MRCK, did you avoid putting your match on youtube so nobody else would see it? That's what I did.

alright.

wait, can i do this...

ride, go off my board and but both feet on the floor then do some hand trick and then do like a body varail or something in the air and then land back on the board?

i saw varail do that in his full Vid thing.

Nothing with both feet.

^really?

Because varail did one in his vid so i thought i could to...

Varail can i?

THat is called a caveman, yes he can.

^thanks bro i love you!!!!

well ill go practice...

Wowza, so is PBS now Re-Setting or whats happening.
The confusion !

yeah im resetting...sorry for all the trouble guys.

in the rules it says only Bonelesses and no complys are aloud, but in a diffrent rule it says you can "caveman" (bombdrop), so im confussed on that one.

Yeah, I reminded varial that cavemans were allowed just after the game started, he may not have edited the rules yet.

We should remind him after he comes back from school.

Great... can a mod delete all those false matches?

wait...


When my trick due now!?!?!?

would it be Saturday?

Just get it in ASAP man, it shouldn't be too hard.

Ok then, majority vote wants a re-set and that is what is going to happen, and all the people that matched the other trick DO have to match the re-set aswell.

I am giving pbsk8er till the end of 13th april GMT to get a re-set.

uhh....im not sure if i can get it in by then....

But ill try because every Friday i like go to NJ and i can't skate there...

ill try to get it in.

Anyone know why my Game of Copy thread is closed?

uhh....im not sure if i can get it in by then....

But ill try because every Friday i like go to NJ and i can't skate there...

ill try to get it in.

Anyone know why my Game of Copy thread is closed?

Then just set it now.

Yeah you could have got a set by the time you posted that XD

^ill go get a quick one...hopefully my basement isn't all wet.

Edit:

Alright i got it!!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XQwTp-dmjqg

it's a caveman,where your on your board then you get off, triple handflip with a body vairal....

I was notified that the boneless i did was the right one.

Mate, that's in carpet..
And you stopped dead.

That's even less of a boneless.

I'm going to hate myself if I match this.

thats not a boneless either...that was a caveman...btw u need to role away and u didnt...can't u just set somethin else? try somethin u know the name of and could do it properly (make sure its allowed before puttin it on)

Edit:...sorry it's a caveman...

you still have to do it because it is a trick...Hate it or not you gotta do it

Dude did we not just show you 500 videos of people doing bonelesses?

GOD ****ING DAMNIT!!!

I am not matching this and if this counts or something else similar to this is set, im quitting. This is ridiculous.


EDIT: Nah, you know what? I'm out right now, i dont even care if that doesn't count and he has to reset again. Just take me off the list now. I assumed we would be doing actual tricks in a game of skate. Stop changing the names of your tricks because you cant boneless. This is alternative air GOS for ****s sake. Im just so frustrated and angered by this im quitting now. Call me lame.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGr9aA079y4
Watch it, watch it until it burns into the back of your skull. After that, watch it some more.

Oh come on, not again! Dude lets just give PB a letter and move on! i mean come on! I got a letter for not setting right in BBGOS2.

whats wrong with it?!!?!?

Skatinkrazy said it was alright!
in the begging.

Well I thought it was fine because it was a caveman...whats wrong with it?

^nothing...

They proabaly cant do them...

Just kidding just kidding no one take it personal or anything.

yo zeronyskater is right its no fair to people that have to set over ......like zero...... got a letter for settin wrong etc.......

^i didn't set it wrong!!!!!!!!!!

It's a caveman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My Gosh!!!

A caveman is when you kick your board into your hand by popping. Like an ollie but you land on your feet with deck in hand. Jumping off your board with both feet while crouched down and then picking up your board is not. I can most certainly can do that, but will never because its stupid. Why did you enter this game?

Im just sick of it and I want out.

A caveman is when you kick your board into your hand by popping. Like an ollie but you land on your feet with deck in hand. Jumping off your board with both feet while crouched down and then picking up your board is not. I can most certainly can do that, but will never because its stupid. Why did you enter this game?

Im just sick of it and I want out.


i agree withnu all the way listen pbs.............im sayin that u had a chance to set ...u messed up........did the worng trick now u have to be skiped and/or get a letter ..its fair to all of us

This is just annoying , so does it count or what? what the **** do i match? this is BS

Pop it into your hand like a man :]
Like this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2CITpAWk2c
+ You didn't roll away. Stop skating on your damn carpet, Jesus frikken Christ.

no offense, but give this kid a letter already and move on....

Alright i got it!!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XQwTp-dmjqg


^this is not a trick... hell i could pick up any random kid at schoool thats never stood on a skateboard and they would be able to "land" that it 5 minutes. i'd be embarrassed to post that lol

no offense, but give this kid a letter already and move on....



^this is not a trick... hell i could pick up any random kid at schoool thats never stood on a skateboard and they would be able to "land" that it 5 minutes. i'd be embarrassed to post that lol

Seconded

Sorry guys if this isn't my place since I'm not actually in the game.

but for PBS

in Alternative Air GOS I believe No-complys, Cavemans, and boneless' are only allowed

NONE of those tricks should you have both of your feet on the ground at the same time.


For a no comply you take your front foot off as a quick pivot, pop your board with your backfoot (like your popping it to your hand to pick it up) and use your back foot to jump back on.

For Caveman You do kind of an ollie but you pop the board into your front hand while still standing sideways and jump and swing your board back under your feet.

and for a boneless you take your front foot off kind of like in a no comply grap the toe side of your board and launch yourself up with your front foot and suck your front foot back up and land on it.



Hope that helps.

Yeah, a caveman, you pop the board in to your hand, you stopped a lil bit before the trick and after the trick.

No count
No Re-Set
My set
pb takes a letter.

Thank God that's finally over. Looking forward to your set Andy.

finally someone takes a bit of control i had been watching this game for the past few days its gone no where because of mongo pbskaters little whatver the hell they where

I have my set, just got to upload :)

EDIT: It is up

Nice set man, that song is from gran turismo 3, i used to love it but never new the name of it, what is it lol?

It's called Buck Rogers by Feeder :)

And yes it is from GT3, that is how i got to know the song :)

I could send it to you on msn if you want.

It's called Buck Rogers by Feeder :)

And yes it is from GT3, that is how i got to know the song :)

I could send it to you on msn if you want.

Already downloaded it (ermm i mean went out and bought the single ;) ) But thx anyway!

Nice set Varial :)

MOFAUX I think you should take it easy and stay in the game man, you're free to do what you want of course but I'm pretty sure that if you do quit now, you'll wish you hadn't in the future because more interesting tricks are going to be set ;) I'm pretty sure everyone got annoyed at pbsk8er's sets just like you were (no offense to pbsk8er).

Question MRCK, i know you have landed loads of comply plasma spins, have you ever tried/landed any of these?

Question MRCK, i know you have landed loads of comply plasma spins, have you ever tried/landed any of these?

I can't remember, I may have landed a few while messing around a while ago but if that's the case then I never practiced them anymore.

What are everyones opinions at the difficulty/easiness of the trick.

Do you think you could do it?