Who do you guys think gets too much credit or is extremely overrated?

Bam of course.

I think Bam is overrated, He is good and has his own style. I don't see other people caveman from another floor to a half pipe down below. But I don't think he isn't as good as a bunch of people say he is.

From that list, Bam. If I were to choose Other, I would have said Sheckler.

Yea, Bam is probably the most overrated. But he's insane, I'll give him that.

bam hes not really that good we have local skaters who would beat him in GOS

Bam, Mullen, and Sheckler. Bam because he's a sellout. Mullen because he's too overrated, i know people that don't skate and are obssesed with him. And Shecker because he's a little preppy, pretty boy with ugly style.

bam just isnt as good as people think. he has a good style and good tricks, but hes just not that good. sheckler's overrated but he is pretty good

bam/sheckler/that dude who frontflipped the ten set onto his deck

bam: all he does is powerslides and cavemans and stuff in his stupid ass park
sheckler: bigass kickflips/3 flips. thats it.
dude who frontflipped the ten set: f*cking gymnast, thats all

edit - the dudes name is william spencer

****... I can't decided between Tony and Bam...

Yeah, I say Bam's more overrated.

Other.

Ryan Sheckler. He's good.. but not amazing or anything.

****... I can't decided between Tony and Bam...

Yeah, I say Bam's more overrated.


i dont like vert, at all to be honest, but i dont think tony's that overrated.

he invented a lot of tricks/is the best vert skater ever.


now, he doesnt deserve all the rep and endorsements he gets, because like noone sees him anymore because hes 307, but he still gets money and video games dedicated to his likeness for innovating every vert trick.

I guess I don't think Tony's as overrated as he is... over commercialized.

I guess I don't think Tony's as overrated as he is... over commercialized.
Thtas so very true.

bam bam fo sho.

Bam just cuz he is crazy but if u took him out it would be Rodney Mullen for his freestyle

Rodney Mullen is not overrated, he's friggin insane...I don't think any skater out there could do half the things he does and make it look so good... The dude INVENTED the flatground ollie and kickflip for god's sake!

tonys over rated i mean sure hes good but i wouldnt consider him "The Best Skater"

Bam, and if you vote for Mullen, I will hunt you down and stab you in the pelvis! Because can you varial heel underflip? Cuz he can, he just learned them/invented

Bam, definitely.

And how is Mullen overrated - he deserves more respect than he already has!

Wait a second, if Mullen is overrated but deserves all the credit, then he's not overrated, is he?

that's what he's saying...

You people are insane. Not one skater on that list is overrated. Bam is an awesome skater and is only a celebrity because of his pro skating. He was on H-Street in the early 90s and then Toy Machine. Check out his part in Jump Off a Building. Tony Hawk is the most innovative transition skater of all time. Vert didn't die until Tony started phasing himself out of pro skating. Rodney Mullen is the most innovative street skater of all time. He invented most flip tricks ever performed. All you kids who are crazy over "tre flips", go thank Mr. Mullen. Bob Burniquist is to the 2000s what Tony Hawk was to the 1990s. Before Bob, nobody skated switch on vert. He even pulled off the switch loop. How can he even be considered overrated? Think what you will, these are just my opinions.

You people are insane. Not one skater on that list is overrated. Bam is an awesome skater and is only a celebrity because of his pro skating. He was on H-Street in the early 90s and then Toy Machine. Check out his part in Jump Off a Building. Tony Hawk is the most innovative transition skater of all time. Vert didn't die until Tony started phasing himself out of pro skating. Rodney Mullen is the most innovative street skater of all time. He invented most flip tricks ever performed. All you kids who are crazy over "tre flips", go thank Mr. Mullen. Bob Burniquist is to the 2000s what Tony Hawk was to the 1990s. Before Bob, nobody skated switch on vert. He even pulled off the switch loop. How can he even be considered overrated? Think what you will, these are just my opinions.


i think bams a decent skater, but his recent video parts suck

he hardly has to try anymore on anything skatingwise, but all of his bamfans/bamgirls jizz if they see him pull off anything at all, whether it be a 40 foot crook grind, or a heelflip.

and they put too much non-skating in his vids.

Bam is an awesome skater and is only a celebrity because of his pro skating.
lol, good skater, haha. He's only famous because of skating? Nothing to do with Jackass? Also, 95% of Bam boards are sold to pre teens aged 12, they only like him because of jackass and think he's good at skating because they haven't relized yet.

^Bam is a good skater whether you want to admit it or not.... he dosent deserve all the hype he gets, but you cant say he isnt good at skating.

Rodney Mullen is not overrated, he's friggin insane...I don't think any skater out there could do half the things he does and make it look so good... The dude INVENTED the flatground ollie and kickflip for god's sake!

Mullen invented about half of the tricks we have today.. not just the ollie and kickflip.

But anyway, my vote goes to Louie Barletta. Hahaha.

You people are insane. Not one skater on that list is overrated. Bam is an awesome skater and is only a celebrity because of his pro skating. He was on H-Street in the early 90s and then Toy Machine. Check out his part in Jump Off a Building. Tony Hawk is the most innovative transition skater of all time. Vert didn't die until Tony started phasing himself out of pro skating. Rodney Mullen is the most innovative street skater of all time. He invented most flip tricks ever performed. All you kids who are crazy over "tre flips", go thank Mr. Mullen. Bob Burniquist is to the 2000s what Tony Hawk was to the 1990s. Before Bob, nobody skated switch on vert. He even pulled off the switch loop. How can he even be considered overrated? Think what you will, these are just my opinions.

All though I highly agree with what you said about the other 3, and respect the whole post, I must say Bam's attitude is still "queerish" and doesn't really strike me as someone who you would want your kid looking up to. Personality takes a big role in how I see people, and he just doesn't have it.

I dont know why, but William spencer annoys me =/

But anyway, my vote goes to Louie Barletta. Hahaha.


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Bam is good at skating, but he is still WAY to overrated. And he gets paed a lot of money for being a "jackass"

I dont know why, but William spencer annoys me =/
Isn't William Spencer the made up guy in RM vs. DS round 3? or am I thinking of another person? I think I'm thinking of someone else though, who was that? William Patrick? I think it was a really irish name

Isn't William Spencer the made up guy in RM vs. DS round 3? or am I thinking of another person? I think I'm thinking of someone else though, who was that? William Patrick? I think it was a really irish name


just search the denver shop, or burning daylight, his part will be first more than likely

Isn't William Spencer the made up guy in RM vs. DS round 3? or am I thinking of another person? I think I'm thinking of someone else though, who was that? William Patrick? I think it was a really irish name

He mixes parkour and skating, his stuff is sick, but it annoys me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksGlbmpx_Rg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuCh1d0whCw

I posted a recent, not knowing but already shown vid, in the video vault, of William Spencer doing his parkour skating bit. Pretty cool stuff, he just has an annoying attitude so it seems. Anger problems or something..?

I posted a recent, not knowing but already shown vid, in the video vault, of William Spencer doing his parkour skating bit. Pretty cool stuff, he just has an annoying attitude so it seems.


i think hes bipolar or something



..."MOTHER FRICKER!"

Bam.There's nothing Bam could do that Kerry Getz wouldn't have already destroyed.
Very overrated.

I say Bam, he is overrated for skating but underrated for being hilarious. I liked him more in the Jackass videos than any of his video parts.

i hate bam...hes not a terrible skater....but still the worst professional

if it wasnt for jackass he wudent have ever got the least bit famous

so he is the most overrated skater

bam without a doubt

Why even put mullen as an option, And you can you say sheckler? He does the massive-est Tricks off buildings down onto streets and stuff , he's amazing/// My vote is on Bam...

i said bam known more for his craziness then skating

Saying Mullen is overrated is just stupid. He is excellent. And since when did selling out make you overrated? I thought that was what being a pro was all about. They're all sell-outs! Not that it's a bad thing. Take it where you can get it!

Bam is really overrated.

i hate bam...hes not a terrible skater....but still the worst professional

if it wasnt for jackass he wudent have ever got the least bit famous

so he is the most overrated skater



yes, hes overrated

but hes not famous in the least for being on jackass
go watch his wheels of fortune part, it was incredible.

he evantually got sponsored by toy machine/element.

he was friends with someone on jackass, so they invited him to be in it.
after jackass stopped, they gave him his own shows/stuff, so everyones his ***** now.

hes a good skater, he just doesnt need to put any effort into any of his vids.

what a suprise everyon voted bam what a nob... :)

Mike V

Oh god this is blatantly gonna turn into another "Let's hate on Sheckler and Bam!" thread...

I don't think ANY pro is overrated. They're pro for a reason.

And Bam's skills aren't overrated at all. You just hear about him more cause he has TV shows which have nothing to do with skating. Bam has never been ridiculously famous for his skating, though he is a pro and with good reason. If you watch some of his videos, he pulls some sick stuff. Everyone hates on him cause he "sold out".

But he didn't. He just happened to expand his career into the media industry too. Why can't skaters skate and be on TV?

None of the pros are overrated cause they all deserve a million dollars, since they would destroy us all in a GoS. Yeah even MRCK!

Flip ;)

bam ovcourse, but the only reason is because he has his own tv show

How can you even put mullen in that list??

It's pretty obvious to me that Tony and Rodney shouldn't even be on the list but what personally shocks me the most is how come BOB BURNQUIST is on it, because that guy is just plain incredible, and more to the point he doesn't get a tenth of the recognition he deserves in my opinion. You can't even imagine how I'm so glad noone voted for him yet, I guess I can see why some people can be annoyed by Rodney's and Tony's popularity (jealousy :icon_doh:) but dang, Bob isn't even as popular as he should be.

It's pretty obvious to me that Tony and Rodney shouldn't even be on the list but what personally shocks me the most is how come BOB BURNQUIST is on it, because that guy is just plain incredible, and more to the point he doesn't get a tenth of the recognition he deserves in my opinion. You can't even imagine how I'm so glad noone voted for him yet, I guess I can see why some people can be annoyed by Rodney's and Tony's popularity (jealousy :icon_doh:) but dang, Bob isn't even as popular as he should be.

haha i love how you didnt say anything about bam:icon_drdo

Bam, definitely.

And how is Mullen overrated - he deserves more respect than he already has!

Thats true Mullen is in no way overrated, he doesnt get enough credit with as many tricks as hes invented, if it werent for him none of you guys would have your prescious 360 flips, Kickflips, Heelflips, Varial Heels or any of those variations, the guy is the original skater.

Thats true Mullen is in no way overrated, he doesnt get enough credit with as many tricks as hes invented, if it werent for him none of you guys would have your prescious 360 flips, Kickflips, Heelflips, Varial Heels or any of those variations, the guy is the original skater.


actually if it hadnt been for him, im sure someone else would have invented them.

still, props to him for inventing them

actually if it hadnt been for him, im sure someone else would have invented them.

still, props to him for inventing them

You might be right but he was and is so far ahead of everyone else he has things in his mind that a normal person wouldnt think of for another decade.

Bam, thats all I hear about from kids i don't know.

William Spencer is absolutley amazing. He has more balls than you, your dad, your brother, your cousin, and your grandfather put together. You guys that think he's over-rated must be on drugs.

I change my vote to Daniel Shimizu. Actually, everyone on foundation except for corey duffel and gareth stehr

Definately Bam, I really dont think Mike V. deserves to be pro either.

^Why shouldnt mike v be pro? He's a great skater at everything. Street, Vert, flatground, everything.

William Spencer is absolutley amazing. He has more balls than you, your dad, your brother, your cousin, and your grandfather put together. You guys that think he's over-rated must be on drugs.





actually you're right. i was thinking as if he was bam/tony/mike v status.

for where hes at, hes not overrated.
but if he was like, pro, he wouldn't deserve it.
hes f*cking incredible at all of his weird parkourboarding-esque stuff, but that should be enough to make you pro.

he does some pretty unique stuff and hes ballsy, but hes not that great of a SKATER.

Bam of course!

bob isnt over rated at all. hes put in his time and work to get to where he is today.

you cant hate on tony, hes also put in years of work to get to the top.

its posers like bam that dont deserve to be pros. hes a jackass.. hes not a skater hes a stuntman on a skateboard.

like chet childress says 'you dont have to be a stunt man to skate..'

i used to this tony got all the attention because his 900...but i watched a few videos and he isnt bad at all....of these id have to go with bam even though he does some cool stuff.

wat was the point of even putting bam in it? i put other though, i think brian wenning is really really plain for a pro

I really dont think Mike V. deserves to be pro either.

Do you even know why Mike V is, and how much the guy contributed to skateboarding back in the 80's ? Don't base yourself on the lame fighting videos he released recently or his footage in the latest THPS games and go watch the early Powell videos, then you'll understand why he is such a legend ;) This guy shouldn't even be touched, and I don't mean to offend you but I'm a firm believer that anyone who puts him on the same plane as Bam has no clue of what they're talking about. You may not like his stuff but he definitely deserves everyone's respect.

i'd say tony hawk... everywhere i go my non-skater friends are like wow if you keep it up you'll be tony hawk 2 !!!
i'm like... WTF he's a VERT skater... i'm street/flatland...

and it's so annoying when he's probably the only skater anybody knows...

so he's got my vote :D

wat was the point of even putting bam in it? i put other though, i think brian wenning is really really plain for a pro

What are you talking about? Brian Wenning has a style like no other. No one can touch that sleep like style has when he's doin' switch front shuv switch back 5-0s off ledges in MACBA. Watch his stuff, hes amazing, insane lines, and can pull off the big stuff (switch front shuv MACBA, switch back 180 LOVE).

And, the point of putting bam in there is because he is overrated, the guy sucks for a pro. And he's just an idiot.

Sorry, but I really disagree with what you said.. :icon_bunc

i'd say tony hawk... everywhere i go my non-skater friends are like wow if you keep it up you'll be tony hawk 2 !!!
i'm like... WTF he's a VERT skater... i'm street/flatland...

and it's so annoying when he's probably the only skater anybody knows...

so he's got my vote :D

How is he overrated though? He is the best vert skater of all time. Bam is clearly the choice here. He is completely insane which helps him but I wouldn't put him in the same category as the others listed.

Bam's a popular skater only because he's in several TV shows. Viva La Bam, Jackass, and Bam's Unholy Union. Without these shows, nobody would know who he is.

bam definetly, but i still think he rocks.. but i dont think that rodney is overrated

What are you talking about? Brian Wenning has a style like no other. No one can touch that sleep like style has when he's doin' switch front shuv switch back 5-0s off ledges in MACBA. Watch his stuff, hes amazing, insane lines, and can pull off the big stuff (switch front shuv MACBA, switch back 180 LOVE).

And, the point of putting bam in there is because he is overrated, the guy sucks for a pro. And he's just an idiot.

Sorry, but I really disagree with what you said.. :icon_bunc

Yeah dude, Bams style is way ******, he needs to learn to do something other than dropping in off of random things and firecrackers, Wenning has THE sickest line skating Ive seen, hes sick.

bam although i have to say him hurting himself is entertaining to me...

bam although i have to say him hurting himself is entertaining to me...
haha true

****... I can't decided between Tony and Bam...

Yeah, I say Bam's more overrated.

how the actual hell is tony hawk overated???

Tony in little kids but Bam in teens.

Tony was great, but now doesnt skate.

ryan sheckler- girls like him just because he is famous and cute.

ryan sheckler- girls like him just because he is famous and cute.

Yeah too bad hes a little douchebag, all that talent goes to waste.

umm i think we should snap the thread makers neck for putting mullen in there. and how exactly is he over rated? hes under rated! DAMMIT!

but why would you make a poll. with other... not smart. but everyone would pick bam

umm i think we should snap the thread makers neck for putting mullen in there. and how exactly is he over rated? hes under rated! DAMMIT!

but why would you make a poll. with other... not smart. but everyone would pick bam

For real I mean Mullen? Even though hes clearly a robot, he still invented the tricks we do daily.

umm i think we should snap the thread makers neck for putting mullen in there. and how exactly is he over rated? hes under rated! DAMMIT!

but why would you make a poll. with other... not smart. but everyone would pick bam


it says:

Rodney Mullen (although he deserves all that credit)

it says:

Rodney Mullen (although he deserves all that credit)

It should say
Rodney Mullen (although hes a robot)

It should say
Rodney Mullen (although hes a robot)

How can you call Mullen a robot exactly ? I personally find his style fairly unique and recognizable, which is always a good thing and shouldn't be used to bag on anyone, is it because of his impressive ability to land insane tricks that require the precision of a Swiss clock bolts and with a consistency that can't even be touched, and if so, how can it be a bad thing ? He stands out, and in my opinion the only 'robots' in skateboarding, provided that there are and that you have to blame them for it, would be those who don't.

ill have to say sheckler. being the youngest to accomplish something(at the time) doesn't make ya any better.... just the youngest. couldn't say bam because well he was good at one point when he was back on toy machine. couldn't say rodney mullen cause you can't overrate that guy. couldn't say tony hawk cause ive been reading up on him... apparently lives a very hectic life while helpin the skatin community. couldn't say burquist cause I can't name a better vert skater.

btw rodney mullen to me is not a robot because of a bad style but i call him a robot because of how its not like he has tricks dialed but actually programmed. when he does his tricks they are pretty much perfect with 100% percent consistency like watching robomans trick program.

i dont like vert, at all to be honest, but i dont think tony's that overrated.

he invented a lot of tricks/is the best vert skater ever.


now, he doesnt deserve all the rep and endorsements he gets, because like noone sees him anymore because hes 307, but he still gets money and video games dedicated to his likeness for innovating every vert trick.

Tony is younger then Rodney Mullen but he retired cause when he skated he was always winning or placing 2nd or 3rd, that would get boring to anyone but anyway hes done almost everything possible for vert:

First to land the 900, done the loop, the mega ramp, won X-Games gold year after year, Gravity Games gold, Triple Crown, etc. Hes a icon, he pretty much brought skateboarding back from the dead and chances are without him, 2/3 of the people that skateboard now, wouldn't be without him.

Im voting Bam, even though all the people that like him most of them just like him for his stunts not his skating ability (unless their "eleventeen"), I would vote Rodney cause for years now all his video parts he does the same tricks just on something new. If I see him do one more manual kickflip, nose manual to nollie flip out on a picnic table I swear Im going to go crazy. Same tricks just on something new, how about he does some sets or something! (Yes I know what hes done recently but all his parts are getting old)

bam is the most

i dont care what anyone says about rodney mullen, tell me when you find someone else that did a crooked varial heel flip out.

I voted bam of course! He shouldnt be a pro. half the emerica sponser me tapes are better thanthe **** bam turns out! And as for Sheckler, bastien Salibanzi was better than that little twat when he was his age! And how is Rodney Mullen overrated?

bam

do i even need to explain?

(-)Bam Margera is definitely overrated without a doubt. He may seem cool and good but that is because MTV made him. Yeah he is sponsored, but the really has nothing over any other pro that makes him better. He can drop off big ledges, but that is not a rarity these days.

(+/-)Bob Burnquist, in my mind, is a pretty good skater that is NOT overrated at all, but then again, I have not really sat down long enough to watch him skate.

(+) Tony Hawk is a veteran. He did the 900 and a bunch of other stuff. Although he isnt very good at street, he still does ok, plus he kills at vert (of course). He is NOT overrated, just overdone by the media

(+) Rodney Mullen is most definitely NOT overrated. I mean, have you actually seen the guy skate? He is insane. Yeah it isnt that hard to casper, primo, etc. but when he does it, he does it on a whole different level. Just watch Almost round 3. You'll understand.

(+) Someone mention Ryan Sheckler. In my mind, he is NOT overrated. I mean come on guys, the kid is not even legal and he is pro. Go watch almost round 3. He is damn good for his age. He is better than a lot of older pros. I think that he is better than half of the other guys in that Video (except for Daewon and Mullen, of course)

Thats my opinion. To each his own. Good thread. PEACE!

Bam, he's a poser, and an actor, not a skater, good in his toy machine years, but not anymore.

Chad Muska, all I really see him do is Ollie big things which is cool and all but he doesn't seem all that great. He has such a massive rep over in America though, I can only assume it's because he's a really nice generous guy cos his skateboarding isn't all that amazing.

Hoping to see what his section is like on This is my Element though.

Bam because he can't do crap even though they consider him as a "pro"

def bam

bam and ryan buttseckz sheckzlerszz lol. bam is alright but he doesnt seem to skate that much and he is a sellout. i mean mTv aired his stinkin wedding on tv so he could make a quick buck. ryan sheckler thinks he is too good. i mean he can do some ok stuff, but tons of people in my school love him when there are 50 zillion other pros that could smother him.

Sheckler. I saw him on t.v today and I always thought he would be better by what people say.

Bam and Sheckler

Rodney Mullen he is the god of skateboarding but some people got the be athiests.

Bam & Sheckler for sure. They get wayyy too much publicity and they're not even as great as some other skaters.

bam is actually a really good skater, i just dont like his lifestyle, and how it has affected peoples perception on his skateboarding, im looking forward to his this is my element part.

BAM OF COURSE hes not good at skating. hes ok at park skating, but he sucks at everything else. bob burnquist and tony hawk are cool. i like theyre tricks for some reason

okay all you guys are cool but bams pretty good except for the idiot that lies inside him otherwise he's good if he had so common sence he'd be a great skater, and I think all you guys should give him another chance, like everyone looks on the idiot side but otherwise he's a good skater...so dont think bad about him, and tonyhawk is the over rated pro, he doesnt do any street so basicley he isnt the best skater of all time...

I think sheckler is pretty overrated and commercialized. I heard so much about how great he was and then when I saw him I didn't really notice anything out of the ordinary from a pro.

I actually have no opinion on bam. I think he's a good skater and I know sure as hell that I can't do any of the stuff he does. All of the people on the poll have a lot of talent, some of them just try to flaunt it more then others..

From that list, Bam. If I were to choose Other, I would have said Sheckler.

Quoted for truth.

The Burnquist hype on X-games etc is plenty annoying , that he's a genius and all that . . . whatever:icon_pape

some of william spencers trick remind me of some of mive V's
and i think bam is overrated, he's a good skater but everyone gets stuff of his, even i have a deck of his:icon_redf
but lots of posers at my school who don't know crap all about skating always talk about bam and tricks he's done even i fthey dont even know what a 360 flip to rocknroll is.

oh and people saying sheclkers over rated what a joke, his proabably the best street skater at the moment

Tony Hawk is the god of vert

Rodney Mullen is the god of street

Spencers sick man...hes mixing skating and Parkour/free running....dont diss him for that

Bam and sheckler
bam i just dont like hes way too overrated and a sell out and shecklers a prep


i like how hes being creative, but i dont like all the youtube hype hes getting.
most gymnasts, if they wanted to, could EASILY do that stuff.

Bam for sure.

I dont really see any skater as overrated, Its just not how i look at it, Hawk and Bob are definitly not overrated if you know your History, Bam is more overated as a person then a skater if you know what i mean there, Shekler i cant comment on because i dont watch him skate, I think there the 4 thats mostly been disscused in this thread.

i agree bam is overrated, and i dont think shecklar is that good, but he does seem to win a lot of comps, he won the mountain dew comp just the other day, he jumps off some crazy stuff though, i mean on top of buildings accross alley ways!! jeeze!, but everyone else is cool , bob rocks and mullen is the shiz, but my favorite skater who isnt up there is nyjah for some reason i love that kid, he's got some balls for like a 10 year old

(-)Bam Margera is definitely overrated without a doubt. He may seem cool and good but that is because MTV made him. Yeah he is sponsored, but the really has nothing over any other pro that makes him better. He can drop off big ledges, but that is not a rarity these days.

(+/-)Bob Burnquist, in my mind, is a pretty good skater that is NOT overrated at all, but then again, I have not really sat down long enough to watch him skate.

(+) Tony Hawk is a veteran. He did the 900 and a bunch of other stuff. Although he isnt very good at street, he still does ok, plus he kills at vert (of course). He is NOT overrated, just overdone by the media

(+) Rodney Mullen is most definitely NOT overrated. I mean, have you actually seen the guy skate? He is insane. Yeah it isnt that hard to casper, primo, etc. but when he does it, he does it on a whole different level. Just watch Almost round 3. You'll understand.

(+) Someone mention Ryan Sheckler. In my mind, he is NOT overrated. I mean come on guys, the kid is not even legal and he is pro. Go watch almost round 3. He is damn good for his age. He is better than a lot of older pros. I think that he is better than half of the other guys in that Video (except for Daewon and Mullen, of course)

Thats my opinion. To each his own. Good thread. PEACE!

I agree to all but the Sheckler one, I own Round 3 and have seen it more than 150 times, he can do anything that my buddy down the street cant, he gives himself too much credit and he has a big head (metaphorically).

oh and people saying sheclkers over rated what a joke, his proabably the best street skater at the moment


HA!

yeah.
daewon song, chris haslam, rodney mullen, chris cole, jamie thomas...

HA!

yeah.
daewon song, chris haslam, rodney mullen, chris cole, jamie thomas...

dirty does have a point those are some good names.......

Chad Muska, all I really see him do is Ollie big things which is cool and all but he doesn't seem all that great. He has such a massive rep over in America though, I can only assume it's because he's a really nice generous guy cos his skateboarding isn't all that amazing.

Hoping to see what his section is like on This is my Element though.

WTF?

Chad Muska is amazing. From circa 1996-1999, Chad Muska certified his "Legend" status in skateboarding history. He quit Toy Machine just before the "Welcome to Hell" release. At the time, Toy Machine was the premier team in skating. Chad Muska, Jamie Thomas, Ed Templeton, Mike Maldonado, Brian Anderson, Donny Barley, Elissa Steamer, what a team! He then went on to become an orginal member on the Shorty's team. Shorty's had just started selling decks and made Muska the centerpiece of the team. A team which included: Muska, Peter Smolik, Steve Olson, Branden Turner, Sam Baptista, Toan Nguyen and more. Muska's part in "Fulfill the Dream" is timeless. Watch that and tell me you are not impressed. At that time Muska was on top of the skateboard world. He then started to venture into other things such as music because he wanted new challenges. He produced a record and became heavily involved in the Hollywood scene. I believe his skills have diminished over the years due to his excessive lifestyle. All the partying has finally caught up with him. None-the-less, he is still one of skateboarding's legends. He was an original "Go Big" skater, applying this to all obstacles. In the old TSA video "Life in the Fastlane", he 50-50s a curved 20+ stair rail. His style is unduplicable. Smooth and easy, he makes his tricks look. His Frontside flips are like no other. That's my opinion on "The Muska".

dude nijah huston isn't that good i have like 6 friends that can kick his as in a game of skate

No contest. Bam is definetely the most overrated pro ever. I dont consider him a pro I consider him a jackass that skates.

bam
and y is mullen an option he invented the tricks!

bam and sheckler, although mullen is not my favourite skater i think he is not overrated

Bam Is Over Rated...

I'd have to say Bam, I like him but he is pretty overrated

bam, hes only pro so element can print his stupid boards, tee's and griptape to flog to little kids. and for everyones information rodney mullen did not invent the ollie.

Rodney Mullen invented the flatground ollie, but he didn't invent the ollie in general. Alan "Ollie" Gelfand invented it in 1979 I think, but that was on vert, not street. However, Rodney was the first person to take it to flatground. So basically, overall Gelfand invented the ollie. However, Rodney is the one who brung it to flatground, because before that it was primarily a vert trick.
And jeeze, haha. I think Bam used to be overated, but now it seems like everybody hates him. But it's mainly because of the Jackass stuff. He is an extremely skilled skater, but people don't see that, the only thing they see is him acting like a retard. But I know how awesome he is, he just needs to take the Jackass stuff out of his video parts. This is his "This is my Element" part. And it starts out with Jackass stuff, but instead of tricks, jackass stuff, then tricks, and more stupidity, all the stupid stuff is at the beggining. The rest is just skating:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tNXBXNass4

They're pro for a reason.

All of you are wrong.

Bam is actually pretty good at skating,have you seen his part in one step beyond?Its just that hes really gay.

The best thing about his One Step Beyond part are the two 540 Nollie's. 540 Ollie's are hard enough. And too my knowledge he was the first person to ever do that trick(not including vert 540 nollies).

But overall, I don't think anybody is overated. We are allowed to like/dislike whoever we want. But all pro skater's are better then me, so I have no right to say anything bad about them.

I can't think of a pro that I think is overrated. They all seem pretty good to me. There are some I don't care for, but they still rip.

bam is just cool like many other skaters, but they dont sell themselves for that. He has his own show and it's just the coolest show because rodney mullen dowsn have one or andrew reynolds or other ppl. i personally dont like bam margera but i watch his show

dude nijah huston isn't that good i have like 6 friends that can kick his as in a game of skate

What??? Winning a game of skate is what makes you good? They should make more videos with only games of skate. I just love seeing flatground flip tricks while rolling very slowly. Watch his part in the new Element vid and tell me that he is not good.

Oh by the way, this thread is titled "Most Overrated Pro". Mr. Huston is am. Think before posting something so ignorant next time.

lol bam ... even though personally who am i to say whose over rated, but the difference with bam and all the other skaters is that bam is occuppied with other things like tv shows and sheet. He's a pro who turned into a figurine, something to be packaged up and sold out making money of his famousness and his face. Not she skate ability which is wak yo lol :D:D
:D:D:D:D:D:D.

bob

he does like nothing now, not to mention he sucked at x games recently

bam for sure

lol its kinda annoying how everybody busts on bam

he WAS good at skating, and he still kinda is, he just doesnt do that much anymore

its like... tony hawk. tony started making those games and basically stopped skating, bam got his own tv series and basically stopped skating

why? cuz they could make a living with selling stuff and in bams case acting like a retard and having fun

he got to pro skating somehow u know, and while hes a flaming douche nowadays hes still not that bad

and the opinions of his cronies of posers dont count. theyre not skaters lol

tony..

bam>> but sheckler is too. prep

All you all stop the hate on the skating of others. Bam yeah he is lame and jackass is dumb but because of that his skating is actually underrated. but if someone makes it who cares why... they killed it and thats why they are pros. sry about the rant! so i dont really think any pro is overrated.

even though bam has his own crazy style hes still pretty overrated

keep ya head in tha books kids.ill tell u wat.go watch toy machines jump off a building and you will see how good bam was and still is.he said himself that he will always remember skating got hima ll that ****.and ryan sheckler.wtf.u gotta be kidding me.just last week at teh dew tour he ollied up that huge step up to manual.did u see ne one else do that.no.and he has a clean ass style too might i say.not tryin to start **** im just statin the obvious.but u wanna see some good ass woodpushin watch mike mo capaldi skate.go to youtube and type in his name and watch him 720 flip.he landed it then slipped out.

What??? Winning a game of skate is what makes you good? They should make more videos with only games of skate. I just love seeing flatground flip tricks while rolling very slowly. Watch his part in the new Element vid and tell me that he is not good.

Oh by the way, this thread is titled "Most Overrated Pro". Mr. Huston is am. Think before posting something so ignorant next time.


i thought nyjah was pro now? he had a vid on youtube that said his last am run or something similar.

Bam .... nuf said

and if sheckler is so over-rated then how come he wins practically everything he skates?

Bam fasho. Because he's more known for his show than his skating skill. Idk why mullen and hawk are on the list though. Hawk was an inovator in Vert, and mullen is just really popular but with good reason. What he does on a board just aint human.

I think Bam would lose half of his confidence if he signed up for the Cafe and seen this thread.

bam, hes just an idiot

Elissa Steamer

^I Disagree. Elissa Steamer is damn good for a girl. I've never seen a girl tre like she can.

BAM MARGERA is the worst even if i did go and get locked in a store with him just to get the entire adio teams autographs

^What?? I have no idea what your trying to say. haha.

I don't think any of these guys are overrated. Bam's pretty dang good, but I don't see anyone rating him next to the greatest around. He's a lot better than an average Joe.

Hawk owned ramp competition for three decades, easily the greatest vert skater of all time.

Burnquist's tech stuff on vert is ridiculous, not sure how he could be overrated.

Mullen does a lot of stuff maybe one or two other people alive can approach, some of it is solely his own.

bam is the most over rated skater
even though
i went to see him and the adio skate team to get autographs
i ended up locked in the store with bam (which was pretty damn cool)
if your curious to how i got locked in the store with bam ill be glad to tell you

tony hawk. i like bam because he know how to have fun, like when he paintballed his dad lmao

bam and tony

bam is the most over rated skater
even though
i went to see him and the adio skate team to get autographs
i ended up locked in the store with bam (which was pretty damn cool)
if your curious to how i got locked in the store with bam ill be glad to tell you

Sounds like an awsome story haha. Please tell.

of the 4 listed...bam

but i think shekler needs a wake up call. he is good, but he is way over rated

tony hawk. i like bam because he know how to have fun, like when he paintballed his dad lmao



u say tanoy hawk is over rated? whats wrong with you?:confused:

Bam or tony.
( does tony even skate anymore? )

bam,mullens the bomb!!!!

Bam.
Tony Hawk is a amazing vert skater.
Bob Burnquest is a amazing vert skater.
Rodney Mullen is the original tech skater.
And instead of burnquest they should of put ryan sheckler.

Tony Hawk, overrated. Hilarious!

Hawk did stuff in contests more than ten years ago which guys still don't throw in their routine.

bam
he does easy shizzle

Sounds like an awsome story haha. Please tell.


well me and my friend decide to go see the adio team at fast forward(carporate ass skateshop) now known as zumies
we get there and wait in like for 2 and a half hours
my friend gets impatiant and cuts up about 10 people he get his autographs but after another 30 minutes i walk up and get everyones autograph EXCEPT bams so i turn around and see bam headed toward the doors (2 one inch thick glass doors)
i was standing behind him and was like "hey sign this" he did then walked out the doors into the waiting fans stand there for like 3 seconds

THEN

he turned back around and walked back into the store
everyone was rushing him trying to get his autograph and what not
girls were screaming and crying as security was trying to hold back the fans that were linded up all the way around the side and back of the building
they eventualy got the doors shut and i was still inside then they started beating on the 1 inch thick glass doors chanting WE WANT BAM WE WANT BAM

i swear i thought they was going to break those doors cuz they were flexing like crazy

so i stay in the store about 5 minutes which was now closed for the day
i ended up going out the back door of the store finding my friend and explaining it all to him
he was pissed but his impatient ass should have stayed his place in line

in the end i got locked in the store damn near saw some glass door shater and shook bams hand and walked away with the entire adio teams autographs and a crazy ass expirence ill never forget
cuz i got the last auto graph of the day

^^ Awesome story. Bam is definitely the most overrated, hes not even that good. Of the people on that list he would definitely lose first in SKATE. All hes got are his retarded stunts for Jackass that has no skating whatsoever, unlike CKY.

you guys are retarted have u guys ever acually seen how good bam really is?? hes not like reynolds but he still has a great style and great bag of tricks.

bam, we know he can skate. but he skates for kinda the wrong reason... skating is about having fun, and just having fun with your friends. and bam.... well.... he makes skating into more of a stuntman type of thing. idk, does anyone else kinda at least know what im saying? lol

i think bam is

i'd say Bam all the way

how can bam even be a pro anymore cause he doesnt do any comps just does his mtv shows ( haha tool)

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say P-Rod. Sure his tricks are solid, and He's a great switch skater. But what's so special about him? Why is he so popular? He does the same old stuff. Hand rails, stair sets. Even if the tricks are really hard it makes for a mundane video part. There isn't any creativity involved.

My overrated list goes:
1. Bam
2. P-Rod
3. Sheckler

If Rodney Mullen is anything, He's underrated.

Bam is way over rated. Its all because of Jackass and Viva La Bam.

mullen is way underrated! ok, so some of his parts look the same, but his recent ones dont. his round3 part was insane! I don't agree that bam doesnt enjoy skating, it looks like he has great fun. i watched cky3 the otherday and he does some crazy assed stuff, maybe not tech, and he doesnt throw himself down 20sets, but so what, he's kinda interesting to watch so i dont really care.
and sheckler is a really really good skater, but i cannot stand watching him, it doesnt look like he gets any satisfaction out of his tricks, he barely puts any effort into them. and it sucks that he cant stand coming in second, that's really really pathetic imo

Bam, he pisses me off :p

bam all he does is jackass well thats all i see him doing

bam obviously cus to many people when ever viva la bam was on so many poser were created and were like bam is the best skater in the world and they go buy adio's and element and say omg these are the best teams ever and they even call power ollies "bam ollies" but bam is better then me but he's way to overrated and rob dyrdek is turning a bit overrated but rob is actually really good if u watch him skate compared to bam and other pro's...

Yea, Bam, was a great skater at one time . Now all the kids who dont skate and know nothing about skating, but know about Bam because of MTV think hes like a legend. How could anyone put Rodney Mullen? Have you people who said that ever seen that guy? His tricks are like programmed into him, its insane.

well if could just pick a specific moment in time this would be really easy
I also say P-ROD

I mean what 3 years ago it was HIM vs Koston in street and skate as the best street skaters

WTF happened since he signed onto Nike....

who ever is sayin mullen is overated your idiots lol he made the sport what it is like every flatland trick you do jst keep in mind he probally invented it he not overrated he deserves the credit he gets.

From that list, Bam. If I were to choose Other, I would have said Sheckler.

aye. bam, but sheckler is a close second.

bam is my idiol i wanna be him sooo bad and why cant i vote???

Bam.....but hes pretty good at the mini ramp tech stuff, no Daewon or Haslam mind you but pretty good.

BAM! dude is way overrated man

but wait i think shaun white should be in on this poll too replace mullen with him and hmm sheckler he should take burnquist spot lol just my opinion

Bam. He has a TV show. Isn't as good as most pros you would of never heard of and he mostly does jackass stuff anyway.

Ryan Allen Sheckler

Im gunna hafta say Bam on this one.

BAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!! GRRR he makes me mad.

out of there,bam. but if i had to just randomly pick, it would be sheckler. he sucks. i kno other local skater that are twice as good as him. plus his show "Life Of Ryan" sucks ass. compared to bams show SHECKLER ****ING SUCKS!

ryan sheckler

mike v, i mean he's not even that good and his book of tricks is so little yet he still manages to get his trick tips on sportskool on demand, and crazy sponcors like jeep and alot more publicity then he should.

Bam the most,
then Sheckler..
Not tony hawk, his games just suck.
Mullen is really good.

i think bam is sik!!! he might not be the bes boarder in da world but hes fun to watch and hes just funny!!!! dont take the piss outa him!! lol peace out
xx

From that list, Bam. If I were to choose Other, I would have said Sheckler.
ya, sheckler should have been included
i love how everybody is ripping on sheckler, no one obviously likes him

Bam Bam Bam Bam Bam Bam Bam Bam Bam Bam!

bam every 1 thinks hes such a good skater but ive never seen anything impresive by him and ryan sheckler the most ive seen him do is go up and down his little skatepark in his back yard and cry about his parents. rodney mullen just never fails to imprese me and with all those tricks hes made up he has to be the best skater out there! the skate team that sponsers him has got to be proud and btw who does sponser him?

tony hawk for sure

Has to be bam, though there are a lot of people (like sheckler) who ae also overrated...


Though saying that I do have a Bam hoodie :icon_redf

whats with all the people hating on sheckler???
i admit he is kinda lame but his skating is pretty awesome. i think you are all just jealous maybe...hmmm?

i think you are all just jealous maybe...hmmm?
Maybe a little bit.... :tongue:

Bam Margera. Jon Allie Is Beast And Hes Not Overrated

i have no clue why you put tony, bob and rodney on that list... for that i must call you an idiot

tony is the king of vert, i mean come on he did a ****ing 900!!!
bob, well he is just insane, he jumped the grand canyon and he just won gold at the x games
rodney - king of street, invented mostly everything lol!!

BAM!!!!!! BAMM!!!!!! he is the only pro that shouldn't be pro in my opinion, the only reason he is still pro is because the tv show and all the little kids who idolize him..


and for those who say sheckler is overrated, no he's not overrated he's just a whiny *****, and his new show sucks major ass... he's still a great skater, but i think he skates for the wrong reason, i mean, i don't even think he skates for fun, he skates to make moneY!!! dude you have enough money, you act like skating is a chore or something on that **** tv show, i used to like you, ive lost all respect for you thanks to your show!! :) good one, anyways he's still a sick skater

I think Tony Hawk is, even though he's good. They put him on kids shows and stuff...

ryan sheckler

im gonna throw another name into the mix, chad muska,

ryan sheckler. hes deffinenetly in it forthe money

Chris Haslam should be on the list so no one could pick him :D

l0lz t3h b4M M4rG344!!1~! l0lz

sheckler is in a weird catagory.
ive met him and hes a douche.
a straight up *******.
and too many people like him.

but hes a crunk skater.

ok rodney mullin because he was good in his freestyle days

Bam, Hes a good skater but he is most famous for Jackass and CKY. And everyone thinks hes amazing cos hes on those shows, when their are loadsof pros that are much more talented.

BAM MARGERA.
is overatted.
he wouldn't have that much respect in the skating world if it wasnt for his TV shows and stuff.
I mean hes good.
just not... like. legendary good.
and the people that said Tony Hawk or Rodney mullen... lay off the mary jane.
tony hawk revolutionized skateboarding! and if im not mistaking. he invented the shape of our boards today! so. how is that overrated.
and for mullen...
watch any of his videos...do you know anybody that can do that???
NO.
The kickflip is a basic trick in skatboarding..and HE INVENTED IT!
he too revolutionized skateboarding.
so. there you have it.

my opinion on Bob Burnquist... hes good, but hes not the best, and he skates for the fun, not all the fame and money like Bam does.

someone correct me if im wrong on something.
thanks.

I think Bam would be the most overrated skill wise. He is a crazy bastard, but he cannot hold his own against most of the pros out there.

I think Tony is actually underrated in a way because he revolutionized vert skating. He has an insane amount of board control and perfect balance. (THPS style :icon_bigg Hah!) Also he was one of the people who popularized skateboarding, giving our favorite companies more customers.

People hate on him because of the THPS games, the publicity he gets from them, the tons of publicity he gets in general. When people think skating they probably think of Tony Hawk if they don't know much about it. They also hate on him because of how old he is and how long hes been doing it. Birdhouse is also hated on tons, not many people would ride them and I've had a kid call me a poser because I rode a birdhouse deck. I think its because I ride alot of transition and happen to love Birdhouse decks... Although I am the second best, well now the best tranny skater in town now that SS6 is down and out :tongue: Mwahahaha. By the way SS6 I am learning Tornado spins, by the time you get back on a board I'm gonna have them down. :icon_pelv


Hmm actually another overrated skater might be Riley Hawk. He is not known very much, but I don't think he should be an AM. I think he may have become AM because hes a 'Hawk'...

even rob dyrdek doesnt like bam wath this vid

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9KUTxNR1f24

bam is way to overrated. i mean he is good, but i would never hang out with the guy he seems like a douchbag, on the internet he made some kids slap themselves because they liked him so he said slap yourselves

Thats true Mullen is in no way overrated, he doesnt get enough credit with as many tricks as hes invented, if it werent for him none of you guys would have your prescious 360 flips, Kickflips, Heelflips, Varial Heels or any of those variations, the guy is the original skater.

mostpeople dont know it but jason lee actually landed a tre like a day or so befor mullen he did not invent it and pj ladd would beat mullen in s.k.a.t.e.

ryan sheckler
i mean i like him haha hes sooo hot
but like theres people who are as good as him not pro
like the only reason is cuz when he was 13
but he hasnt really improved in the 4 years

i'm going to have to go w/ dustin dollin.....in my opionion he seems toooo cocky.

first off shecklers a beast, and bam isnt over rated, when have you ever heard his name come up in TWS as a good skater? and i didnt read the whole thread, but if any of you mentioned P-rod as overrated, i hate you. just throwing that out there.

even rob dyrdek doesnt like bam wath this vid

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9KUTxNR1f24
Too bad Dyrdek is overrated too. Who I picked for this poll. ALL TIME OVERRATED? Bam. But right now, Rob.

Too bad Dyrdek is overrated too. Who I picked for this poll. ALL TIME OVERRATED? Bam. But right now, Rob.
none of you understand the industry at all do you?

i voted bam before and already posted, but i want to change my vote:icon_bigg

andrew reynolds is the most overrated to me.. sure he's good, but if i see one more fs flip from him im gonna go crazy..

rodney mullen is all the street skateboarding is amazing

Mullen shouldn't be on this list, he's like.. the god of skateboarding.
Bam for sure.
Sheckler would be my number 2 because it seems like he skates for fame and fortune. I mean cmon, he cried when he lost the X games.

idc bout rodney cool he invented tricks... and before you hate on reynolds, are you aware that he bs heelflip the 5 block that everyone else only skates four up on.? ill get a pic

From the list i would have to say Bam.

ok i couldnt find the photo but its on the cover of the oct 2007 the skateboard mag. and he also bs flipped wallenberg. end of story.

have you met him and talked to him?? end of story.

Other, Sheckler. Nuff said.

Chad Muska. I see his sections in skate videos and think "how is that any better than the AM I had never heard of in that bla bla video?".

And I think most dedicated skateboarders are aware that Bam isn't an amazing skateboarder, therefore I don't think he is overated.

Bam of course and I think tony is a bit my fav is mullen how is he overrated hes deserves the credit

i think cuz i really don't think he takes skateboarding that seriosly like the others do. he thinks as it being able to have money and do dumb ass stuff

i think cuz i really don't think he takes skateboarding that seriosly like the others do. he thinks as it being able to have money and do dumb ass stuff

who? Mullen? Read his biography

I think Bam's overrated because of his TV shows, but he's not that bad..

^i used to live in bristol U.K and i used to see people skating every day who are miles better than him.
E.G Layth Sami who put the legendary switch tre down Lloyds (if you don't know google it)
thats just one example i could give you 100 people who are better.
oh an btw anyone who thinks rodney mullen is overrated should be shot, i mean jesus he's like better than friggin jesus.

^i used to live in bristol U.K and i used to see people skating every day who are miles better than him.
E.G Layth Sami who put the legendary switch tre down Lloyds (if you don't know google it)
thats just one example i could give you 100 people who are better.
oh an btw anyone who thinks rodney mullen is overrated should be shot, i mean jesus he's like better than friggin jesus.

I mean, I know he's probably not pro quality, but it isn't like he can't even ollie (like me :biggrin: )

none of you understand the industry at all do you?
How bout you tell me why he isn't? I see kids supporting him when they should support someone much more deserving. The reason he is big is from his show, and I hear kids saying he rips harder than anyone. He doesn't.

Why wasn't Sheckler on this list?

have you met him and talked to him?? end of story.
what does me talking to him have to do with him being over rated? end of story. cuz you must not know what over rated means if i have to talk to someone to say they are or arent.

Ryan Sheckler.

HeS TEH AMZ STATTY FO SHO

How bout you tell me why he isn't? I see kids supporting him when they should support someone much more deserving. The reason he is big is from his show, and I hear kids saying he rips harder than anyone. He doesn't.
you dont understand the industry cuz you think its about being good at skating? its not just about that anymore. its all a market its about image, once you get good they want someone whos name can sell boards, thats why. and dyrdek has been around forever killing it the whole time, since before all of us prolly skated, therefore you cant say hes over rated cuz he is well on his way to being a skate legend MTV show or not.

and shecklers not on the list because hes not over rated, well maybe a tad, but its through people that dont skate. has he won a transworld award? skater of the year? how many skateboarders say hes the best. regardless hes on plan b which is a feat in itself, his video part in oakley was amazing, and he wins tons of contests. hes clearly pretty good.

what does me talking to him have to do with him being over rated? end of story. cuz you must not know what over rated means if i have to talk to someone to say they are or arent.

over rated doesn't just apply to skating buddy..he's overrated meaning everyone talks all this good stuff about him when he's really not all that great and doesn't have such a great attitude meaning he doesn't deserve to be so high on everyones list


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so somebody can be overrated strictly on personality not to say im basing it solely on that.

and shecklers not on the list because hes not over rated, well maybe a tad, but its through people that dont skate. has he won a transworld award? skater of the year? how many skateboarders say hes the best. regardless hes on plan b which is a feat in itself, his video part in oakley was amazing, and he wins tons of contests. hes clearly pretty good.

many of those contests he won were biased decisions because most comps need him now in order to get any viewers and keep their ratings high.

talking to him in person has NOTHING to do with that, the question is whos skating is over rated.

and to the kid that said muska, hes a legend watch shortys guilty, he skated some of the biggest steepest rails youve ever seen.

talking to him in person has NOTHING to do with that, the question is whos skating is over rated.

and to the kid that said muska, hes a legend watch shortys guilty, he skated some of the biggest steepest rails youve ever seen.




Who do you guys think gets too much credit or is extremely overrated?

no the question is who do you think is the most overrated pro. anyways im done posting in this thread w/e you win.

its cool dude i dont wanna win, i was just saying if that is your opinion fine. but i feel if you see all of reynolds video parts and interviews with him hes an amazing skateboarder and a really cool dude.

first of why is tony hawk on that list. just because he has his own game dosnt meen hes overated like most people think. If it wernt for him keeping the sport alive when it was dying none of you would even be riding a board. Also hes pulled so many tricks in his day and ivented a bunch too. He should be on the most credit deserving list. Also bob burnquist shouldnt be there either because he rips and thats why hes so known. He even did the loop switch and with a gap in the top. Also he does some of the most technical tricks in vert skateboarding. Bam is overated but element makes probobly half their money of of his stuff. And you know whats funy Bam does stupid stuff off of a skateboard like a lot of other people out there. he just got noticed first and knew the right people. He also had a name in the skateboarding industry way before cky and viva la bam and whatever tv shows he has. Mullen shouldnt be there either because he inveted almost every single fliptrick out there. he also helped the sport progress imensly.

you dont understand the industry cuz you think its about being good at skating? its not just about that anymore. its all a market its about image, once you get good they want someone whos name can sell boards, thats why. and dyrdek has been around forever killing it the whole time, since before all of us prolly skated, therefore you cant say hes over rated cuz he is well on his way to being a skate legend MTV show or not.
That's cool that you assume I didn't know the skate industry from one post. For one, I work in a **** skateshop, I know whose boards sell and whose don't. I know there's an image. And I've seen a good handful of Dyrdeks parts. I think he has stiff style. I think he isn't that good. And that is why I consider him overrated.
Overrated - to rate or appraise too highly. I think you're appraising him too highly.

Becuase of his show, I hear kids say "I saw Rob Dyrdek skating on Rob and Big HE'S SO GOOD." They're appraising him too highly, but only from sheer ignorance of not seeing other skaters. Dyrdek only sells boards because kids see him on his show. His boards have his dog and pony on them. The reason is so kids see it, remember the SHOW, and buy it. He doesn't sell boards because people relate to his "amazing" skating. No that doesn't mean he's overrated, but half the kids buying the board call him AMAZING. And I don't think that's true, which is how I see him as being overrated.

The fact that I consider Dyrdek overrated has no relation to the skateboard market. It's how I judge skateboarding, not how hot they are right now.

That's cool that you assume I didn't know the skate industry from one post. For one, I work in a **** skateshop, I know whose boards sell and whose don't. I know there's an image. And I've seen a good handful of Dyrdeks parts. I think he has stiff style. I think he isn't that good. And that is why I consider him overrated.
Overrated - to rate or appraise too highly. I think you're appraising him too highly.

Becuase of his show, I hear kids say "I saw Rob Dyrdek skating on Rob and Big HE'S SO GOOD." They're appraising him too highly, but only from sheer ignorance of not seeing other skaters. Dyrdek only sells boards because kids see him on his show. His boards have his dog and pony on them. The reason is so kids see it, remember the SHOW, and buy it. He doesn't sell boards because people relate to his "amazing" skating. No that doesn't mean he's overrated, but half the kids buying the board call him AMAZING. And I don't think that's true, which is how I see him as being overrated.

The fact that I consider Dyrdek overrated has no relation to the skateboard market. It's how I judge skateboarding, not how hot they are right now.

and thats why his product sells, cuz of his TV show, cuz the image is now a world wide market, alien workshop is genius for that. none of us may like it but this is how skateboarding is now. those kids shouldnt be how you determine whos over rated anyways. and the point still stands that dyrdek has been around for ages. and hes killed it. hes getting older, theres better ams, but some of those ams names wont sell a board as much as his yet. thats why hes pro. what im trying to say is you dont hear any real skateboarders going dyrdek is the best, and if you do its cuz they feel that way. and he is good, im just saying that the little mtv fan crowd opinions hold no weight.

BAM MARGERA.
is overatted.
he wouldn't have that much respect in the skating world if it wasnt for his TV shows and stuff.
I mean hes good.
just not... like. legendary good.
and the people that said Tony Hawk or Rodney mullen... lay off the mary jane.
tony hawk revolutionized skateboarding! and if im not mistaking. he invented the shape of our boards today! so. how is that overrated.
and for mullen...
watch any of his videos...do you know anybody that can do that???
NO.
The kickflip is a basic trick in skatboarding..and HE INVENTED IT!
he too revolutionized skateboarding.
so. there you have it.

my opinion on Bob Burnquist... hes good, but hes not the best, and he skates for the fun, not all the fame and money like Bam does.

someone correct me if im wrong on something.
thanks.

rodney mullen invented concave, not tony.
rodney basically invented modern freestyle, and invented street.
hawk just mastered vert.

rodney mullen invented concave, not tony.
rodney basically invented modern freestyle, and invented street.
hawk just mastered vert.
tony hawk kept the industry alive, rodney mullen invented tricks, cool. someone woulda invented them any ways. thats like saying the man that invented the skateboard must be the best ever, or how bout the guy that invented the ollie alan gelfand, cuz rodney owes his tricks he invented to that man then.

talking to him in person has NOTHING to do with that, the question is whos skating is over rated.

and to the kid that said muska, hes a legend watch shortys guilty, he skated some of the biggest steepest rails youve ever seen.

Probably saw it years ago, Shorts was big around school back then haha. Shall re-watch it tomorrow though if I remember, no harm watching to be proved wrong about him. :)

Probably saw it years ago, Shorts was big around school back then haha. Shall re-watch it tomorrow though if I remember, no harm watching to be proved wrong about him. :)
yea dude its like alot of the pros now are getting older, but they put in their time so thats why theyre so respected and muska is deff one of them.

and thats why his product sells, cuz of his TV show, cuz the image is now a world wide market, alien workshop is genius for that. none of us may like it but this is how skateboarding is now. those kids shouldnt be how you determine whos over rated anyways. and the point still stands that dyrdek has been around for ages. and hes killed it. hes getting older, theres better ams, but some of those ams names wont sell a board as much as his yet. thats why hes pro. what im trying to say is you dont hear any real skateboarders going dyrdek is the best, and if you do its cuz they feel that way. and he is good, im just saying that the little mtv fan crowd opinions hold no weight.
You're basing your opinion off of if he sells boards. Not his ability. At least that's how it seems. The fact that he sells boards is NOT a reason he is pro. He went pro because he was actually good. Now... Not so much. A lot of pros don't sell boards. But they still rip. And everyone's opinions hold weight if it's considering overration (ha is that even a word?). They think he's the best from ignorance of not watching actual skate vids. And because of that, they over-rate his true ability compared to other skaters.

i voted bam before and already posted, but i want to change my vote:icon_bigg

andrew reynolds is the most overrated to me.. sure he's good, but if i see one more fs flip from him im gonna go crazy..

REYNOLDS?!?!?! ARE YOU ****ING CRAZY? he is THE boss. he can fire you for saying that
his fs flips are legendary

You're basing your opinion off of if he sells boards. Not his ability. At least that's how it seems. The fact that he sells boards is NOT a reason he is pro. He went pro because he was actually good. Now... Not so much. A lot of pros don't sell boards. But they still rip. And everyone's opinions hold weight if it's considering overration (ha is that even a word?). They think he's the best from ignorance of not watching actual skate vids. And because of that, they over-rate his true ability compared to other skaters.
no hes a legend back then he was one of the best, hes still in the game though he is just getting older, same with jamie thomas, theyres better ams now, but you just respect the legends for what they did in their times. dyrdek is still such a good tech ledge skater.

REYNOLDS?!?!?! ARE YOU ****ING CRAZY? he is THE boss. he can fire you for saying that
his fs flips are legendary


lol this is exactly what i was talking about...what would ppl do if the boss couldn't do fs flips?? he wouldn't be nearly as popular

Sheckler. Sheckler wasn't overrated when he was younger cause he was good for his age. but he hasn't seemed to improve much and has a T.V. show for no reason.

Bam, nuff said

lol this is exactly what i was talking about...what would ppl do if the boss couldn't do fs flips?? he wouldn't be nearly as popular
they would do this, woah this guy bs flipped wallenberg, woah this guys sw flipped samo 14, woah this guy nollie and fakie cabbed carlsbad. yea what would he do without fs flips.

they would do this, woah this guy bs flipped wallenberg, woah this guys sw flipped samo 14, woah this guy nollie and fakie cabbed carlsbad. yea what would he do without fs flips.
But you can't deny when you hear someone fs flipped something huge you'd automatically think Reynolds. When I saw the bs flip over wallenberg I was suprised it wasn't fs.

But you can't deny when you hear someone fs flipped something huge you'd automatically think Reynolds. When I saw the bs flip over wallenberg I was suprised it wasn't fs.
he fs flipped wallenberg first try, making it near impossible to be over rated. and who cares if he has a good fs flip the best. i gave like 5 other tricks that are god honest amazing, and its the same thing as if i heard three flip somehting huge id think chris cole.