View Full Version : The Ultimate Board Help Guide! By, Phlap and Flatlandbran.


phlap
08-23-2007, 10:16 AM
Flatlandbran & Phlap's Ultimate Board Help Guide!


My bushings wont go on, there just isnt enough room!

The fix? Put them in warm water, and put them on a stove. When the water is boiling, wait about 2 minutes and remove them. Instantly put them on the kingpin WITHOUT THE TRUCK and tighten them quite tight. Wait for them to cool down to room temperature and they should go on no problem!


The bushings are coming out of the cap!

The fix? Well there are 3 types of bushings. Soft, Medium and Hard.

If your bushings are soft, then they are designed to be put on loose trucks. Because they are soft, they allow for sharper turning. If these are popping out of the bottom cap, then you probably have them on to tight, plus with yoru weight your forcing them to squish too much. The looser they are, the more 'squish' room you give them.

Medium bushings are not too soft, not too hard, designed for medium trucks (ironic isnt it?). The fix is the same as the soft ones. You probably have them on to tight. Too loose wont matter much here.

Hard bushings are the most annoying to put on. They dont squish at all, which means you DEFINATELY need to boil and compress them. These squish out because you dont have them on tight enough! Its weird, I know, but if you have them on tight, you wont be able to squish them out anymore! So just grab your skate tool/socket/wrench and tighten away!


My bushings popped out and now they are deformed!

The fix is simple, just put all your weight onto them while rolling them around and they should regain their shape. Should this fail to happen the first time, simply keep on doing it (or geta heavier person!)


My trucks are all up the left! (Lop sided)

Remove the trucks, and dissasembe them, then put the truck back together, swivelling the bushings, so they aren't lop-sided.

If that fails, use the method below.

This has only been tested on hard bushings therefore I cannot garuntee it will work for all of you.
First, your going to want to grab a spirit level (the little things with bubbles in them that show how flat (or not) things are). Put your skateboard on a perfectly flat surface.
Then, grab the level and put in on both wheels.

Find which trucks are screwed up and how much they need to be adjusted. Adjust the trucks using your hands and pushing down on whichever wheel will make them straighter. Once you think you have them level, use the level to check or put your board on the ground to see if it wobbles. If not, tighten your trucks to the point where they cant go any tighter without unevening them again. Put your board somewheres and then simply put weights on them to flatten out the bushings in an even manner.

The next day, grab your board and tighten them again to the max (they should still be straight). Go otuside and ride, and when you come in, chances are the wont be straight.
Simply repeat the level part and tighten them as tight as they’ll go. I doubt you’ll need to tighten more than twice, but if needed, go for it!

(Remember that the tighter your trucks are the easier your kingpin will snap!)


I need to grip my deck!

You’ll need:

Griptape,
An exacto/stanley knife/razorblade,
A file,
*A hairdryer can be used*

Also whatever you need to take off your trucks if reapplying.

When reapplying, the only thing different you need to do is remove the trucks and the griptape. Removing your trucks is simple, so I wont explain.

Removing griptape, well that’s still pretty easy. Take your hairdryed and heat up the bottom of the griptape to make it sticky. Just peel it off. If you don’t wanna use your hairdryer, just use your knife to pry it off.

DO NOT USE A HEAT GUN, IT WILL WEAKEN THE GLUE HOLDING THE PLYS TOGETHER

This next part if the same for reapplying and applying.

Scrape off some of the laquer (laminate) from the top of the deck. (This helps the griptape stick better)
Peel off the back of your griptape & put it on the board as evenly as possible so as to avoid bubbles.
Use the paper to smooth it on, smoothing it from the middle out.

Once it is on, use your file to flatten the edges all around the board. Then, use your knife to cut off the excess griptape. Be sure to puncture any air bubbles you do find and flatten them after, and also make sure to poke holes for your trucks.

Make sure to sand around the edges, when you are done, so the griptape won't peel off as easily.

You might not have the perfectly gripped board you wanted the first time around. Ah well...

My bearings are filthy dirty!

This one is short and sweet. Simply make a mixture of dish detergent and water and put it in a glass or bowl, whatever you want. Put your bearings in and mix them around, but don’t leave them in too long.
Stir them around to help clean faster and possibly more efficiently.

Take them out and dry them off immediately to prevent rusted bearings. This should remove dirt and other buildup in your bearings.

If that doesn't work then take out your bearings again, find the problematic one(s) then turn on a desktop fan.

Wipe any grease/dirt off the bearing before and after doing this.

There should be a bit in the centre you can hold your bearing against, then hold it against it as it spins, If the bearing refuses to spin, then add more pressure, until it starts spinning freely.
Hold it there for about a minute, & then see if you can spin it with your fingers, If not, then your bearing is unfixable.

If your bearings are rusted, there isnt anything you can do. You can buy rust remover, but I cant guarantee it will work the best.


"My kingpin snapped & it's stuck!"

This is possibly the most pain in the arse thing skaters have to do.
First, remove and completely dissassemble the truck. Then put the baseplate into a bowl of freshly boiled water. (Mind your fingers!)

Wait a good 60 seconds then carefully remove it, take the snapped off part of the kingpin, put it right above the broken bit, and beat the **** out of it with a hammer.

You'll need to perservere, this is perhaps the most pain-in-the-arse thing you'll ever have to do, but it'll save your baseplate.

Don't worry about the baseplate becoming rusty, it'll dry off super quick 'cause the water's hot.


"My deck's all chipped, so I can't do grabs!/I have really bad razortail!"

If you have acess to a power sander, I recommend you use it, otherwise, find someone who does and beg...

If you have lots of time (10 mins) you gan just use standard sandpaper/unused griptape, but I highly reccomend the power sander.

Use the power sander primarily on the nose/tail.
(IMPORTANT) To maintain a normal board shape, sand around the nose/tail in a crescent motion, and also keep the deck relatively steady.

DON'T OVERDO IT!


I cant' get my wheels off!

They make tools for this called wheel pullers. You can find them at nearly ANY hardware store. The wheels may need a flat surface for the hooks on the puller to catch, but use a puller if you can.

Put anti seize on the shafts before you put your wheels back on.

ALTERNATIVELY.

If you have a grindstone (Spinning wheel made of stone, works like super sandpaper) then us it to smoothen off the bit of thread that's wrecked.

If you want to grind an akle, grind it with a nut on it.
That way the nut will recut any threads as you screw it off.,

Better ideas are... Wire brushes are for cleaning threads. use a tap and die (the die part) to recut threads if they are flattened or cross threaded, or simply use an axle re-threader, which you can pick up at many skateshops

try not to grind the shaft with the nut off, unless you want to save your nut! (Which will probably be unthreaded anyway...)

If this doesn't work, or you don't have acess to a grindstone, then youll need some super heavy duty plyers.

Take the truck (Perferably still on the deck) and put the plyers, to the inside side of the wheel, then hit it really hard with a hammer, do this until the wheel comes off.

(There is a slim chance that you may damage your outermost bearing &/or bend the axle)



Hope this was of help to many fellow skaters.
If there's something else you need up here, just ask Phlap or Flatlandbran, Chances are they'll have had the same problem and will be of great help.
(ALL THESE METHODS ARE TRIED/TESTED BY PHLAP, FLATLANDBRAN OR ANOTHER CONTRIBUTOR, THEY WORK!)
If you are going to rep me for this, make sure to rep Flatlandbran too, it was a joint effort!


Thanks to "mongrel" for additional wheel removal tips.

FlatlandBran
08-23-2007, 10:16 AM
AWESOME GUIDE! Props partener! AND REP US BOTH OR I'LL NEG REP YOU! =D

Valiance
08-23-2007, 10:40 AM
I repped phlap i tried repping flatlandbran but it says i should spread some rep around before repping you again. =/ but great guide ;). since i don't have the tools to clean my bearings i use a cue tip to white the outside grime... It probably doesn't do anything but it feels a bit faster. lol

Super Mario
08-23-2007, 10:40 AM
I sanded my razor tail, it works alot! Now im not as afraid of credit cards.

Paul J
08-23-2007, 10:50 AM
add to the grip tape one...... you need to file down the edges after you have gripped the board so that the grip doesnt peel at the edges.

justachild182
08-23-2007, 11:36 AM
my trucks got bent where it holds the wheel and i was wondering if i should try to bend it back into place or leave it...i still use them but my board turns a little to the left now.

Elemental106
08-23-2007, 11:49 AM
lol brandon.. valiance only repped phlap ahaha


love the guide :)

darkwits
08-23-2007, 11:55 AM
Very helpful!

FlatlandBran
08-23-2007, 12:01 PM
hey darkwits.. how about a rep? lol Just kidding.


Thanks for all the comments everyone!

phlap
08-23-2007, 12:15 PM
Thanks to everyone for the rep points, and suggestions, We're looking to make this a definitive guide to all damaged deck problems.

So keep the suggestions coming!

arto-geoff
08-23-2007, 01:29 PM
stickied your thread guys because it seems to be helping alot of people out and could maybe stop all those posts "ah my kingpin snapped" etc, nice work phil you clergy sit-com lover

FlatlandBran
08-23-2007, 01:43 PM
thanks a ton arto!

I'm seriously proud that one of my (well half of my) thread got stickied!

sk8boarder
08-23-2007, 02:42 PM
Great guide guys! I'd give you rep too flatlandbran but I have to spread it around some more before I give it to you, so, will you take a rain check?

FlatlandBran
08-23-2007, 02:49 PM
haha yeah sk8boarder, that was funny.

Keep the comments coming!

phlap
08-23-2007, 05:58 PM
stickied your thread guys because it seems to be helping alot of people out and could maybe stop all those posts "ah my kingpin snapped" etc, nice work phil you clergy sit-com lover

Father Ted ftw!

Keep the comments/suggestions coming!

steez 'n pop
08-28-2007, 06:44 PM
thier is this stuff made specificaly for fixing chips but i forget what it is called

FlatlandBran
09-08-2007, 08:35 PM
FIFTEEN BLOODY COMMENTS ON A STICK!

Come on, post something people!

phlap
10-28-2007, 05:06 PM
Remember, Me and Bran will gladly help you, unless we don't feel like it, have something better to do, or don't like you.

seth
10-28-2007, 08:37 PM
umm hey guys i have a problem :icon_snif lol

on my street tensor trucks my pivot cup is coming out how do you take it out and put it back in? it makes me really angrey it randomly turns and like when im riding and setting up foot positions it like tilts to like 2 or 3 wheels throwing me off. its like impossible to the go fast:icon_mad:

PLayAHatA
10-28-2007, 08:46 PM
i have a Q?

ok my wheel came off wierd

well friend was using deck
landed good pivoted and the wheel part came of the plastic inside

Like sya the wheel is like this
| = outer
i = inner

( Before )|i|----|i|
( After ) |i|--||-i

and still falls off
i dont have monney for wheels but any suggestions to putting it back on?

FlatlandBran
10-29-2007, 06:41 PM
Seth.. Thats an odd problem, I've never had the time to look and figured out a pivot cup, so I cant help ya.

Playa Hata.. I dont think you'll be able to put the inside of the wheel back in. Try pulling out your intestines, and then putting them back in.

Not gonna happen.

Sorry I cant help with either!

And **** Dylan, I'd almost have myself a gold sun if they wouldnt have changed the rep system!

seth
10-30-2007, 12:05 AM
no worries i got it done! i just pryed it out then hammered it in :icon_bigg

DocterPOP
11-02-2007, 11:47 PM
very helpful

phlap
11-09-2007, 04:44 PM
i have a Q?

ok my wheel came off wierd

well friend was using deck
landed good pivoted and the wheel part came of the plastic inside

Like sya the wheel is like this
| = outer
i = inner

( Before )|i|----|i|
( After ) |i|--||-i

and still falls off
i dont have monney for wheels but any suggestions to putting it back on?

A photo would help, grab a camera, go to tinypic and then get back here.

mongrel
11-24-2007, 08:19 AM
DON'T OVERDO IT!


I cant' get my wheels off!

Use a socket wrench to remove the bolt.
If you have a grindstone (Wheel made of stone, works like super sandpaper) then us it to smoothen off the bit of thread that's wrecked.

If this doesn't work, or you don't have acess to a grindstone, then youll need some super heavy duty plyers.

Take the truck (Perferably still on the deck) and put the plyers, to the inside side of the wheel, then hit it really hard with a hammer, do this until the wheel comes off.

(There is a slim chance that you may damage your outermost bearing)



ARRRRGGGHH!!!!
NO!! Please dont do this..
NEVER pound a shaft with a hammer..aluminum is a malleable metal and will bend under the stress...the shaft may bend.
They make tools for this...they are called wheel pullers...you can find them at nearly ANY hardware store..the wheels may need a flat surface for the hooks on the puller to catch...but use a puller..

Don't grind the shaft with the nut off ....if you want to grind a shaft...which i cant recommend..grind it with a nut on it...that way the nut will recut any threads as you back it off...better ideas are..wire brushes are for cleaning threads. use a tap and die..the die part...to recut threads if they are flattened or cross threaded

put anti seize on the shafts before you put your wheels on

phlap
12-13-2007, 04:27 PM
DON'T OVERDO IT!


I cant' get my wheels off!

Use a socket wrench to remove the bolt.
If you have a grindstone (Wheel made of stone, works like super sandpaper) then us it to smoothen off the bit of thread that's wrecked.

If this doesn't work, or you don't have acess to a grindstone, then youll need some super heavy duty plyers.

Take the truck (Perferably still on the deck) and put the plyers, to the inside side of the wheel, then hit it really hard with a hammer, do this until the wheel comes off.

(There is a slim chance that you may damage your outermost bearing)



ARRRRGGGHH!!!!
NO!! Please dont do this..
NEVER pound a shaft with a hammer..aluminum is a malleable metal and will bend under the stress...the shaft may bend.
They make tools for this...they are called wheel pullers...you can find them at nearly ANY hardware store..the wheels may need a flat surface for the hooks on the puller to catch...but use a puller..

Don't grind the shaft with the nut off ....if you want to grind a shaft...which i cant recommend..grind it with a nut on it...that way the nut will recut any threads as you back it off...better ideas are..wire brushes are for cleaning threads. use a tap and die..the die part...to recut threads if they are flattened or cross threaded

put anti seize on the shafts before you put your wheels on

Good ideas, I'll stick them in post 1.

xXSkater14Xx
12-24-2007, 08:09 PM
Very helpful.
:D

Preston951
01-01-2008, 09:53 PM
SWEET !!!!!

Im going to boil my bushings right now!!

struck
01-05-2008, 05:21 PM
time to buy some new wheels...dude:icon_hug:

Skaternub
01-07-2008, 02:05 AM
this helped alot , thank you.

swordman540
01-07-2008, 04:21 AM
Is there anyway to cut the griptape without a file?

Tristan
01-07-2008, 04:26 AM
AWESOME GUIDE! Props partener! AND REP US BOTH OR I'LL NEG REP YOU! =D
Considering your rep couldn't hurt mine whats-o-ever sure, and don't ask for rep. :)

FlatlandBran
01-07-2008, 06:00 AM
Considering your rep couldn't hurt mine whats-o-ever sure, and don't ask for rep. :)

I was just kidding bud ;)

As you can see I never negged anyone that never repped us both.

Tristan
01-07-2008, 06:12 AM
I was just kidding bud ;)

As you can see I never negged anyone that never repped us both.
I was kidding too, toushay ;) Good guide though :)

Whatever
01-14-2008, 07:47 PM
Good job both of you, awesome guide!

Valiance
01-24-2008, 01:54 PM
I used a Hex key for my trucks. Which way do I turn it to tighten it O_o If you say right or left please tell me which position I should be facing to turn it.. (I really can't tell the difference since i'm pretty weak and I'm afraid my key will break if I turn it too much. And I don't want to have to turn it all the way around again.

Also, my wheels are wobbly what can I do to fix that. And what tool is used to put on/tighten wheels?

Where are bushings located on the trucks?

phlap
01-27-2008, 03:09 PM
I used a Hex key for my trucks. Which way do I turn it to tighten it O_o If you say right or left please tell me which position I should be facing to turn it.. (I really can't tell the difference since i'm pretty weak and I'm afraid my key will break if I turn it too much. And I don't want to have to turn it all the way around again.

Also, my wheels are wobbly what can I do to fix that. And what tool is used to put on/tighten wheels?

Where are bushings located on the trucks?

1.Anti-clockwise (Left from the top) loosens the trucks.

2.Tighten the wheel bolts with a half inch spanner/wrench. (a 13mm spanner will do)

3.Bushings are the rubery things around the kingpin, which runs down the midle of the truck towards the deck.

en$LAVED
02-02-2008, 04:03 PM
i can ask questions here right?
if i put my royal bushings on my krux,
will they feel the same as my royals?..

FlatlandBran
02-03-2008, 08:06 AM
^ Ask Phlap on this one, because I've never changed bushings on trucks.

All I can say is that chances are they will if you find how tight your royals were, and put them the same "tighteness" on your krux. Though, if your trucks are different lengths and theres a big weight difference, they might not feel the same.

phlap
02-06-2008, 04:42 PM
Oho, I smell bushing talk!

The bushings on a pair of trucks will transfer some properties from the old truck to the new.

It all depends on the height, tightness, and even the way the bushings faced when they were broken in.

Valiance
02-09-2008, 06:53 PM
So to actually change the bushings you have to take apart the truck? Also, how tight do you want your wheels to be on the truck?

And do you know a good guide on how to assemble a skateboard from scratch and the tools needed to do so?

Great guide :)

phlap
02-17-2008, 08:45 AM
You want to have your wheels not really moving side to side much at all, but with enough space to stop the from bearings from being squeezed.

JasonChu
02-18-2008, 07:15 PM
HOLY CRAP, thank you

Valiance
02-25-2008, 05:49 PM
If your cleaning your bearings do you take of the shield and soak em? or do you keep them on. And wouldn't using dish detergent just screw them up more? and you would have to use something to re lubricate. Unless this is just a guide to make them cleaner not really to make them work better?
And how does the lop sided board affect your skating? Because my board is lop sided and I can't fix it, and when I stand on it the wheels perfectly touch the ground so it wouldn't do anything?

phlap
02-26-2008, 02:37 PM
If your cleaning your bearings do you take of the shield and soak em? or do you keep them on. And wouldn't using dish detergent just screw them up more? and you would have to use something to re lubricate. Unless this is just a guide to make them cleaner not really to make them work better?

Keep the shield on if you want to save time, then dry quickly and lube.

How does the lop sided board affect your skating? Because my board is lop sided and I can't fix it, and when I stand on it the wheels perfectly touch the ground so it wouldn't do anything?

It'll feel weird after doing a shuvit, or riding it the wrong way 'round, (Tail at front)

Valiance
02-26-2008, 09:24 PM
It'll feel weird after doing a shuvit, or riding it the wrong way 'round, (Tail at front)

Weird? If the problem is the bushings then is another solution just to get new bushings? Because I don't have a spirit level and I don't understand how tightening them will keep it even. And there are two parts of my board that are lop sided. The wheel nearest the nose to the left and the wheel nearest the tail to the right.

TheMoose
02-27-2008, 06:15 AM
thanks alot! I had endless problems with bushings!

CaptainCool
03-03-2008, 04:58 AM
ilovethisguide. good job guys!

phlap
03-04-2008, 12:28 PM
Weird? If the problem is the bushings then is another solution just to get new bushings? Because I don't have a spirit level and I don't understand how tightening them will keep it even. And there are two parts of my board that are lop sided. The wheel nearest the nose to the left and the wheel nearest the tail to the right.

Loosen the trucks (Very loose) then turn the bushings 90 degrees.

PopShuvit
03-10-2008, 05:15 AM
Sweet guide man:D

ollie up
03-11-2008, 08:54 AM
sweet dude

FS Jordan BS
03-11-2008, 09:01 AM
think im gonna have to re grip my board using your guide lol coz i did it all wrong, its peeling off at the edges really bad. and it looks like someone took a **** on it...

thats was a great guide :D

PopShuvit
03-17-2008, 06:28 AM
Sweet guide mann really helpful!

Han_Is_Me
04-02-2008, 09:55 AM
tats tight thx yo

StreetTerrorist
04-13-2008, 06:00 PM
cool dude

NST
04-13-2008, 06:30 PM
Nice guide guys!

jon24683210
04-22-2008, 10:14 PM
this guide is muy bueno

adioskater997
05-04-2008, 11:44 AM
is this a good setup:

deck: Enjoi 7.75
Trucks: Krux
Bearings:Bone Swiss
Wheels:Ricta

might be my new setup
Merging doublepost
to clean bearings:

WD-40 and Windex

FallenSkater
05-04-2008, 01:46 PM
first off, i'd like to say nice guide :D it helped.
2 days ago, i bought a mini logo deck..when i put my trucks on it, it seemed that the board was going from a 7'75 to an 8' from the tail to the nose. is there something i can do to fix it? or just buy another deck

Syringe
05-04-2008, 01:53 PM
Great guide.

phlap
05-12-2008, 05:46 PM
first off, i'd like to say nice guide :D it helped.
2 days ago, i bought a mini logo deck..when i put my trucks on it, it seemed that the board was going from a 7'75 to an 8' from the tail to the nose. is there something i can do to fix it? or just buy another deck

Most, if not all deck are like that, it's to help with nollies, giving a larges surface to pop off.

In other words, you're fine.

Jay Santos
05-15-2008, 06:58 AM
This was very helpful
Thank you

phlap
05-16-2008, 03:08 AM
It's no problem.
I was about to add a custom cut grip tutorial, but the 20 minute edit period has well since expired...

sk8_poa
05-23-2008, 03:11 PM
dude..i messed up.. i lost some of the washers when i changed my bearings..is washers necessary..i kno it aint related but heck

phlap
05-25-2008, 09:22 AM
dude..i messed up.. i lost some of the washers when i changed my bearings..is washers necessary..i kno it aint related but heck

The washers arent nessasary, but they help if you have tight wheels.

Delphi
06-25-2008, 03:45 AM
Things You Need: Mineral Spirits can be found at art stores or hardware stores or I hear Kerosene works too.

91% or better Isopropyl Alcohol. Foud at the drug store of any place that sells basic first aid.

Skateboard Lubricant like Powell Speed Cream or Rockin Ron's Rocket Propellant or whatever is at your skate shop.

Hair dryer or can of compressed air

A small pin,stapler,paper clip anything you can use to removed your shield.

An old jar or can.

First carefully take your shields off your bearings.Then soak the bearings in the mineral spirit or kerosene gently swishing the solution around to get some movement in the jar,dead cat or whatever you're soaking them in. Remove the bearings and rinse them off with the Isopropyl Alcohol. After rinsing dry them off quickly using a can of compressed air or hair dryer. When using the hair dryer make sure you use the hot air setting. Do this for a few minutes or until the bearings are warm almost too hot to touch. Let them cool down to room temperature and inspect them then lubricate. You can also clean your shields this way but make sure you lubricate them using the tip of your finger.
Mineral spirits are also called White spirit or Stoddard solvent.

Fracture-Deck
07-08-2008, 11:26 AM
This is good if your setting a new deck up from scratch: http://www.routeone.co.uk/framestatic.aspx?staticitem=skateboardcareforlaunc h1.htm

And if my griptape is all dirty and not new looking, how can i clean/fix it?

heelman
07-19-2008, 07:05 PM
Thanks man

Geissler
07-23-2008, 02:37 PM
If you can't get a hold of bearing lube, go into a model/toy/automobile/hardware shop and ask for silicone lubricant, can be in spray but preferable in paste.

Works wonders for me.

505088K
07-31-2008, 03:03 PM
Thanks!!!!

shred sled
08-02-2008, 11:23 PM
Thanks for the guide. It helped alot.

j-unit
08-04-2008, 12:33 PM
Thanks for the tip, helped alot!

jack7h3r1pp3r
08-04-2008, 05:35 PM
parts cleaner work really good for cleaning your bearings but you have to make sure to lube them up before you use them because the parts cleaner will take every thing out of the bearings including the oil that helps them go faster