Thank God. I was starting to worry......:eek:
Haha. I don't think I'll ever get away with skating without a helmet. It was never too much of a deal until this one time. I was first starting skating (couldn't even kickflip) and my balance wasn't too good. I wanted to try some rail tricks and I had like hs railstand to railflip to rail and I wanted my dad to see. I called him outside and i slipped off and did that concussion thing where your head snaps up off the ground. I WAS wearing a helmet during that but my head hurt for like three days and my dad swore that I would never skate without a helmet again.
*walks away from campfire circle


Nah, in all seriousness, I don't really know what the trick can be called. Kind of what MRCK said. Its like a 3/2 impossible half back foot underflip. I do an impossible and then on the way down i push it through around again.

Ok guys, sorry i've been out (my day-2-day life picked up for some odd reason, lol)

Anyway, a few of us are out, and my sig is updated (should be all correct now)

I landed this once yesterday but it was off camera. the little bit i tried it it was alot harder than i expected, mostly just because my impossibles arent as consistent as they were before. but ill give it another try, maybe it'll work out. if i dont get it ill be out of this game fast haha

I landed this once yesterday but it was off camera. the little bit i tried it it was alot harder than i expected, mostly just because my impossibles arent as consistent as they were before. but ill give it another try, maybe it'll work out. if i dont get it ill be out of this game fast haha

Thats the plan :icon_2gun


Switch kickflip underflip ftw!





jk :icon_peac


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Nice match Qtip, kind of a different style than everyone else. And atrain, I'm sorry, but I don't really that should count. Its only my opinion but you kind of you landed and then went totally off balance. You started to go in a circle and then toe touched after. I'd like to hear some other opinions on this.

EDIT: Just watched it again. You didn't stay on for the whole weight shift thing either. It was pretty much just 1 and then down and go flying to the side....

^? toe touch? where? haha

and idk what you mean about this whole "weight shift" thing. you obviously see me start with my leg out one way and shift it in a completely different way to keep balanced. the fact that i was turning has no effect on landing the actual trick, which was doing an impossible and landing on only one foot.

..if i have to go out and go through landing this stupid trick again just so i can stay on one foot for another 1/2 of a second to make you happy im really going to be pissed

^? toe touch? where? haha

and idk what you mean about this whole "weight shift" thing. you obviously see me start with my leg out one way and shift it in a completely different way to keep balanced. the fact that i was turning has no effect on landing the actual trick, which was doing an impossible and landing on only one foot.

..if i have to go out and go through landing this stupid trick again just so i can stay on one foot for another 1/2 of a second to make you happy im really going to be pissed
Yah, looking back its a pretty stupid post with the whole toe touch thing. The whole point of the trick is to stay on for awhile under control though. Just asking other peoples opinions here, but you are supposed to roll away under control.

Just watch everyone elses.

^if you watch my video closely, i wasnt turning all that much until after i stopped riding with one foot, youll see im very controled until i actually put my other foot down since i had to hop back to make room for the other foot

but im done making my case. if more people agree with you and i have to film again tomorrow i will likely film a new set too after i get it :P just for shts and giggles

^if you watch my video closely, i wasnt turning all that much until after i stopped riding with one foot, youll see im very controled until i actually put my other foot down since i had to hop back to make room for the other foot

I'm actually talking about being controlled and being able to rully ride away with one foot on the board. You landed and kinda wobbled for a split second and then put it back on.

I don't know if that match is counted. As Royal said you were on only few second and you looked like you wouldn't stay one footed for more sec, so you put the other foot back on. What do others think? MRCK, we need you! lol

As far as I'm concerned I wouldn't count it, surprisingly enough the one-footed landing itself looks legit to me in terms of validity, but it's the sketchiness of the rollaway that bugs me because he had to do a 90° kickturn to stay balanced and ended up riding away the wrong way, while the rules say that you have to ride away in the same position as the trick has been set. In my opinion it shouldn't count solely because of this, but the exact same thing without the huge kickturn at the end would be good.

Speaking of atrain, isn't it his set now ?

i jus t filmed my rematch, its uploading now and ill include it with my set

^^ Awesome :)

I can't wait to see your set, you always know it's going to be something spectacular when it comes to Ahren :D

k my set is up

just a note on the trick... it is not a feather flip thing. the shuv has to be separate from the casper (btw casper, not hospital). It's really easy to do crappy, so i think it's necessary that the shov be just about 180 or very close before the casper, and for the casper it should start after the full shov and flip over enough that you can tell it isnt just a shov late shov

have fun!

I should get this, i have consistant nollie bs shove 1/2 flip 1/2 underflips and my casper flips are quite strong so yeah :)

Should be a fun trick :)

Nice set, I can't really tell if it was an actual nollie epsilon flip though, it didn't look like the board completed a half flip, yet it looks like you kicked it back from the graphic side, so in my opinion it's halfway through a nollie epsilon flip and a weird looking nollie b/s shove late shove. Therefore I take it that doing it with a 1/4 flip like you did would count, but would a plain nollie b/s shove late shove count as a match ?

(not that it matters to me, I've done switch epsilons before so I think it's going to be fairly easy for me to learn nollie ones, I just want to clarify everything for everyone once for all :))

EDIT - dang you already answered before I submitted my post :tongue: Should be a fun trick to practice.

well its not actually a nollie epsilon flip... since i dont do like a half bf impossible or anything, my back foot disconnects during the shov and the board doesnt start flipping until after the shov, which i think differentiates it from a nollie epsilon flip

i had to think of it like a nollie shove late flip where i interrupted the late flip with a casper motion

The back foot motions for a nollie back foot 1/2 impossible and a nollie b/s shove late flip are very similar though (I personally treat my nollie b/s shove late 1/2 flip 1/2 underflips like extended nollie back foot 1/2 impossibles), I think it's pretty obvious in your clip that you point your back foot toes down at some point to tilt the board on its side which is something you usually do for both nollie back footers and nollie shove late flips, so it doesn't make a difference really, it's still a nollie epsilon, the idea of epsilon flips is actually pretty vague, you can even do them from varial 1/2 heels for extra style points, it doesn't matter (or it would be like differenciating featherflips that are done from a 1/2 impossible and featherflips done from a pressure 1/2 flip, same thing). When you think about it you basically did a nollie back foot featherflip, regardless of how you had to break down the trick in order to pull it off yourself, it's still the exact same thing.

(or it would be like differenciating featherflips that are done from a 1/2 impossible and featherflips done from a pressure 1/2 flip, same thing)

(technically speaking, it would actually be differentiating between a feather flip and a flat b/s shove it late 1/4 back foot flip anti capser [aka shove-it late anti-casper, which i dont think is the same as 1/2 impossible anti casper or 1/2 pressure anti casper])

ah well, okay though. i think a straight forward nollie epsilon is alot easier than what i actually did, and i still dont think its really the same since the technique is quite different... but if you do it that way and still get enough rotation and everything i guess ill let it go

Wow. Really good rematch. This trick is crazy but since its not raining now I'll give it my all. If I get this I have a slight chance of setting again.

BTW atrain- I would like to have that rematch on youtube please.

I think you could call it nollie it a nollie backside shove-it late nollie hospital flip, because once the shove-it is done the board still hasn't started to flip, he does the 1/4 flip and the spin late.

^yeah thats the point i was trying to make before. although i do use both feet so it isn't hospital but casper. but the lateness of the casper is what i was trying to express earlier

EDIT:

BTW atrain- I would like to have that rematch on youtube please.

i can sendfile it to you on aim if you remind me in a pm sometime when im online (aim=theredderlemur)

^yeah thats the point i was trying to make before. although i do use both feet so it isn't hospital but casper. but the lateness of the casper is what i was trying to express earlier

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i can sendfile it to you on aim if you remind me in a pm sometime when im online (aim=theredderlemur)

Alright then. Well after I cam on yesterday, my internet went out for the whole day. While I was trying the trick, I didn't flip it enough which sent the inside of my right ankle right into the layers of the board. It's still feeling crummy today, but I'll continue at this trick. (if I sound weird, its like 6:20 am and I just got up).

I tried it today and it's actually harder than I thought it would be for me :tongue: I have a hard time kicking the board back after the first shove, therefore I end up doing nollie shove-it late 1/2 flip 1/2 underflips almost everytime. I managed to get a proper casper flip out twice (first one was landed on the board upside down, for I missed the 1/2 underflip bit, second time it did the full thing but I landed it with my front foot only). I didn't try it a lot though, only gave it a few tries because I absolutely hate the feel of the trick, I could probably do it but it's pretty disgusting / frustrating to practice therefore I don't know if I will match, time will tell us ;)

I don't even know how to do that, actually what is it? I can't make anything out of your and atrains posts?
Is doing a nollie bs pop shuv it with late shuv it with both foot enough? Or does it have to be flipped a little?

Nollie b/s pop shove, late back foot 1/2 flip, nose casper flip out. But apparently if you can do a nollie epsilon flip (nollie back foot featherflip) that sort of looks like it, it will count. Nollie b/s shove late shoves won't though.

I got one with a pretty sweet flip and I landed with both feet on the back bolts and slipped out. I didn't have enough energy to keep going seeing as I haven't had much to eat today, so I'll try them again tomorrow. I'll upload the one I did to make sure I'm doing it right.
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Ok here it is:
http://media.putfile.com/nollieshovecasperflip

I got one with a pretty sweet flip and I landed with both feet on the back bolts and slipped out. I didn't have enough energy to keep going seeing as I haven't had much to eat today, so I'll try them again tomorrow. I'll upload the one I did to make sure I'm doing it right.
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Ok here it is:
http://media.putfile.com/nollieshovecasperflip

DUUUUUDE! So close! I must be rubbing on off you :D

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I tried it today and actually got fairly close. I can do the motion pretty consistently and land with one foot, my problem is that I find it difficult to get my left(front) foot out of the way after flipping the casper. It usually just gets caugh up and the board lands in primo with my legs wrapped around it.

DUUUUUDE! So close! I must be rubbing on off you :D

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I tried it today and actually got fairly close. I can do the motion pretty consistently and land with one foot, my problem is that I find it difficult to get my left(front) foot out of the way after flipping the casper. It usually just gets caugh up and the board lands in primo with my legs wrapped around it.
Exactly, I kept kicking the board into my shins. My shin is all cut and bruised now.

Exactly, I kept kicking the board into my shins. My shin is all cut and bruised now.

I just watched all the clips and the reason was that I popped the board no more than 4 inches. If I can pop a little quick I think I'll have time to get my feet out of the way. GL Q

So how's this trick coming for everyone? i hoped for at least a few matches

I haven't tried yet as I had afternoon school yesterday and today. Planing to try this tomorrow. Doesn't look to hard, but I learned from other tricks that they are 5000x harder then they look. Probably this one too.

I got two lands today, kinda sketch though. I'll post them up and see what you guys think.
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http://media.putfile.com/nscf

I think the first one should count, but thats just my opnion. The funny thing is, I think that atrain's was a backfoot hospital flip. I zoomed the video in and put it as like 2 percent speed to watch his technique, and his front foot never does anything to the board! If atrain begs to differ, I'd like to here, but it looks like his foot misses the board!

I think it was definitely a casper, also Qtip's matches should count, even though they were somewhat underrotated he kept rolling after the second one, and the trick itself looked good enough ;)

I think it was definitely a casper, also Qtip's matches should count, even though they were somewhat underrotated he kept rolling after the second one, and the trick itself looked good enough ;)
Well its your say on this one, but you can see a space between his foot and the board almost the whole time. Well anyway, I can't be talking. I got a match about the same as Qtips. It will be up in a few minutes.

EDIT: I don't mean to be a jerk about this, calling atrain out on everything, but in my video I zoom in and you can see that his foot missed the board. I'll show you guys when I upload it
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Will any of these count?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6lELkDXB7w
P6lELkDXB7w
Once again, I'm not trying to be a jerk about it. Just trying to prove my point.

i have it paused on a frame where he's definitely hitting it. also, his back foot is only moving forward, and not kicking out like it would have to if it were a hospital flip.

i have it paused on a frame where he's definitely hitting it. also, his back foot is only moving forward, and not kicking out like it would have to if it were a hospital flip.
I would like to see this frame.

maybe i'll try to get it tomorrow then. i don't have the software for all these shenanigans

maybe i'll try to get it tomorrow then. i don't have the software for all these shenanigans

He seriously never touches it.

None of royalgriffins should count, they either had toe touches or were hospitaled.

atrain's was definately casper, his front foot hits the truck.

when I pause it, it does look like atrain's front foot hits the board so I still think it's a casper.

None of royalgriffins should count, they either had toe touches or were hospitaled.

atrain's was definately casper, his front foot hits the truck.
What I see is his foot tapping it upward for the flip. But oh well, I'm tired of arguing. So none of mine count?

I think Qtip's counts, royalgriffin yours will not im sorry

youre analyzing my video too much and missed the overall picture. what you thought you were seeing as 'the attempt at hitting that missed' was just the follow-through of the hit... which in my case actually helped flip it over into the casper more than out of it, but none the less, was still involved

I think Qtip's counts, royalgriffin yours will not im sorry

youre analyzing my video too much and missed the overall picture. what you thought you were seeing as 'the attempt at hitting that missed' was just the follow-through of the hit... which in my case actually helped flip it over into the casper more than out of it, but none the less, was still involved

So why don't mine count?

^^ Because your toes touched.

^because your front foot didnt touch the board at all

As far as I'm concerned I still haven't tried this trick actively yet (I did skate today, but I didn't bother trying to learn flatground tricks, I thought I would have a blast at a local park with my friends instead), I'll see if I can have a little flatground session tomorrow and I'll try to pull a good one off :)

^^ Because your toes touched.
Not on all of them.

^because your front foot didnt touch the board at all
Okay, I'll try the same movement today with a little front foot tap just for you buddy :icon_bigg

I still didn't have time to try this trick, actually to go out. I had school to 7 on Thursday and Friday and today it was raining really a lot. Tomorrow its supposed to rain too, so can I get an extension? Just a Monday? (Except if the match time is until Monday, I won't need it)

This is incredibly annoying. I landed a perfectly clean one that I was sure I hit with my front foot, and I watched the video and it doesn't look like it hit.

Is there any way you could count it if I moved my feet like a casper but missed the board?

Maybe you DID hit it but its just hard to see. Put it on computer and watch it in slow-mo. I didn't know if I touched on my impossible to one foot too, but when I watched it on computer I saw that I didn't.

Maybe you DID hit it but its just hard to see. Put it on computer and watch it in slow-mo. I didn't know if I touched on my impossible to one foot too, but when I watched it on computer I saw that I didn't.
The problem is that I thought I did until I put it up and I'm watching myself flick out perfectly but I just don't see it hit. I'll upload it now, and its super clean. It just goes above the board...

EDIT: here it is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8x6QQaG740
M8x6QQaG740

Yeah I don't think that should count, the trick itself was clean but you clearly didn't use your front foot to flip the board back, sorry.

Yeah I don't think that should count, the trick itself was clean but you clearly didn't use your front foot to flip the board back, sorry.
Ugh. When is matching time over?

We still have about a day and a half I think.

If sketchyness were allowed in this game I'd have an S right now lol.

I got really close to the trick today. This was my first day trying it. I think i may be able to get a match tomorrow. We'll just have to see i guess

I went out and tried featherflips, which I never learned, and now my feet know how to nose casper. I tried it and landed in toe touch. I'll hopefully be able to do it tomorrow. I know now why the earlier ones couldn't count. The mechanics are totally different :D

^ahhh yes featherflips really help for this trick! lol it would be quite hard to do without knowing them i imagine

right now im trying to get a baby death lens on ebay but it keeps going up! the auction ends tomorrow... and i really want it haha. i wish all of you luck on this trick and wish myself luck on the fisheye!

^ahhh yes featherflips really help for this trick! lol it would be quite hard to do without knowing them i imagine

right now im trying to get a baby death lens on ebay but it keeps going up! the auction ends tomorrow... and i really want it haha. i wish all of you luck on this trick and wish myself luck on the fisheye!
Awesome. I'm getting a new camera in a bit. Then its time to start filming for a dont sponsor me tape :D

And yes, you can't imagine how hard it was without ever trying featherflips before. In my mind I was doing nollie shuvit late bubbles. Now I'm actually doing it the right way. Landed it once with toe and hopefully gonna get it tomorrow.

Sig updated...

Sonix, your set man!

I think me and qtip are still in this. I thought we both had SKAT currently.

^^ Matching for atrains trick just finished. You were on SKAT before that.

nevermind. i just checked to see which sets i got lettered on. you're right. this sucks lol. at least i tied for 6th.

Huh???? What happened here?

Ugh. When is matching time over?

We still have about a day and a half I think.

I didn't try it again yesterday because I assumed I had today as well...

EDIT: and Qtip is still in this!

It was set on the 30th jan, 31st, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, that's time.

It was set on the 30th jan, 31st, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, that's time.

Yah, I see that now. I guess I've just learned to rely on MRCK too much. There goes my chance at setting again...:(

crap. this means i didn't tie for 6th lol. 7th place was still pretty good though.

HOLY PEBBLE!!!!!

Next order of hope=varial is out before he sets. Just saw that nollie gazelle bf underflip man. Ridiculous.

You expect me to be able to match Sonix's and MRCK's sets? :p

You expect me to be able to match Sonix's and MRCK's sets? :p
Thus the "hope" involved. On the other hand, practicing for atrain's set, I learned featherflips(to tail stop, took me like 5 tries) and have those nollie bs shuvit late bf hospital flips nearly consistent. (It is annoying that my post in the video vault gets 0 posts while a certain member with initials DJ posts a fs ollie and gets 20 comments in an hour)

Did anyone even read my post? I asked for extension a day or two ago, but didn't get an answer...Hopefully I'll set tomorrow or day after, but we got a lot of rain lately so I might need an extension.

Did anyone even read my post? I asked for extension a day or two ago, but didn't get an answer...Hopefully I'll set tomorrow or day after, but we got a lot of rain lately so I might need an extension.
We all figured you knew that rain couldn't give you an extension for this. It rained for me through forward heels, pressure flip late shuvits, and it just started raining again!

All right. You have a roof, so you shouldn't complain. I don't have a place that ain't wet when it rains around for few kilometers. I'll try to set something tomorrow if its stops raining.

edit: 3/4 of my "extension excuse" was school. Should I skip school to try trick?

Pathtek I'm pretty sure I'm still in this game man. My match counted didn't it?
EDIT: Crap I only posted it in the discussion thread and not the tricks thread. Should I post it up there now? Will it still count?

Did anyone even read my post? I asked for extension a day or two ago, but didn't get an answer...Hopefully I'll set tomorrow or day after, but we got a lot of rain lately so I might need an extension.

You gotta pm me man

As far as I'm concerned I got the chance to try atrain's trick today, I got close but no cigar, I basically have the same problem as Royalgriffin on this one (I can only do nollie b/s shove late hospitals, my front foot doesn't want to catch the board).

Now I can't wait for Sonix's set :)

As far as I'm concerned I got the chance to try atrain's trick today, I got close but no cigar, I basically have the same problem as Royalgriffin on this one (I can only do nollie b/s shove late hospitals, my front foot doesn't want to catch the board).

Now I can't wait for Sonix's set :)
Did you forget January has 31 days or something?
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Qtip, please upload it to youtube.

Did you forget January has 31 days or something?

Heh I guess, sorry, I only had a quick glance at the date of the last post in the Tricks thread and probably rushed the count, that or the difference of timezone, just check yourself next time, it should prevent this kind of trouble in the future ;)

All right. You have a roof, so you shouldn't complain. I don't have a place that ain't wet when it rains around for few kilometers. I'll try to set something tomorrow if its stops raining.

edit: 3/4 of my "extension excuse" was school. Should I skip school to try trick?

i dont mind if you need a day extension on your set or something. but others should answer as well

If you need an extension for your set Sonix, and you're sure to be able to get the trick you want to set, you should probably tell us what it's going to be beforehand, just so the game doesn't get stuck just because of the extra delay and we still have something to sink our teeth into meanwhile. Just a thought.

(and I'm all for granting him an extension to match atrain's set too of course)

Don't mind the extension thing, it didn't rain this morning so place near me wasn't that wet.
Its an inward heelflip fs body varial (bguitarist34, I'm borrowing this from you :D)
I wanted to set kiwi spin, but I can't do it with the condition my skate is atm.

gl

props to MRCK

^ Heh thanks, I don't know why I get your props, but thanks anyway :tongue:

Sonix, I think your set was a pop shove-it late flip body varial, not an inward heelflip, you kick down with your toes instead of flicking out, and the flip looks blatantly delayed. Not to mention that it's a pretty common thing to do those weird pop shove-it late flips instead of inward heels without even knowing it, I've met countless people with the same 'problem' before.

Hmm, well I allways do my inward like that, atleast people count them as inward heels.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=AblgnGJnMkw you can see my inward heel here (second trick) I just do them differently. I kick down instead of around. I don't think thats late.
What do others think? Also, I put my feet to toeside edge and when I pop i already kick down, so its not really late.

You can also see in slow-motion that when my foot is at lowest position, the board already flipped a lot, so that would mean I kick few moments after I pop. (as in before "late")

edit: http://youtube.com/watch?v=pktysQnKMjU (varial_222)
This is an example of late. Which is a lot later then mine.

Well I still tend to think that your second trick in the vid you just posted was a weird shove-it late flip, you can do inward heels by flicking down instead of out, but you still need to use your heel, if you use the tip of your toes or the top of your foot to scrape down on the grip tape like you do it becomes a shove-it late flip (I know a lot of people who do their shove late flips like that, and I've met countless of skaters in your situation who thought they were doing inward heels while they were actually doing shove late flips). I'd say that the 'inward heel' in the clip you posted could be accepted as an inward heelflip, but if you add a body varial you're even more likely to use the tip of your toes, in my opinion the trick you set is definitely a shove-it late flip variation, not an inward heel.

Actually , they said that this was inward heelflip(some old clip I did it same as here) on this forum (I think, if not some other) when I thought that it was pop shuv it late flip.^^
And why would you need to use your heel for inward heelflip? That would mean for normal heelflips, if you used your toes (like I and a lot of skaters do) that would mean ollie late frontfoot heel?

I thought that it was a shove it late flip body varial too, i was veru suprised when you said inward heel body varial, what does it count as then?

It's an inward heel/shove-it lateflip hybrid, let's just do what he did and call it a badumdidump flip.

If most of you think its that, all right. I hate that trick from now on, because everytime I did it they said its the easier version. Both online and in real.

After reading QTip's post, I thought of something, between late flip and normal inward heel? You would have to flip it "fast late"(so no really late flips, but not directly inward heelflip).
I find pop shuv it LATE flips(really late, not like this one) easier.

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/9541/davidmoqe8.th.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=davidmoqe8.jpg)
You can see that the board has done around 90 degree, and its already flipping. So the flip was unleashed little ealier, around 60-80degree.

i dont think making it a hybrid-trick really makes sense... if we can't decide on one or the other to match to then we should be able to do either

Thats basically saying its pop shuv it late flip, since inward heel body varial is a lot harder, so people would just do pop shuv it late flip body varial. Which is again little different then what I did. (so is inward heel as you say.)

Re-set maybe ? :D That would clarify everything. Otherwise let's just call it a shove-it late flip body varial, since it's basically what it is, even though it's easier at least you're not going to have to take a letter for not setting or something.

And no it doesn't matter if you use your toes for regular heelflips btw, since there's no varial, inward heels turn into shove late flips when you use your toes because of the b/s shove-it motion, if you kick straight down the heel-side becomes the toe-side really quick and you end up doing shove late flips. It's just that it's still acceptable as an inward heel if you use your heel because then it's still possible to differenciate the technique from the one of shove-it 'early late' flip.

Yah, this trick is a pop shuvit mobbed late ff flip in my opinion. I think Son1x is setting this because he knows I tried it for 10 hours once and never landed it. That's because I was doing an actual inward heel body varial. Now I'm fairly close to his version so I am going out to film a match :D
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Wow. Didn't pay enough attention to MRCK. You could reset or just have us name it something, like with bg's set.
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Woohoo, triple post. Just thought of a name for it. Instead of a pop shuvit late flip body varial, which would imply a late body varial, I think its a pop shuvit body varial late flip. That is why his front foot kicks it before it fully rotates. Thoughts?

Royalgriffin, I didn't set because you had problem with it, but because I just see this trick as hard in general :D (Never knew you tried for so long thought, lol (edit: didn't bguitarist set one like me, versus you on pogos?)

You can call it pop shuv it late foot body varial, but its just pretty unfair because my , althought it is done with toes, its not really late, I started the flip pretty early.

Royalgriffin, I didn't set because you had problem with it, but because I just see this trick as hard in general :D (Never knew you tried for so long thought, lol (edit: didn't bguitarist set one like me, versus you on pogos?)

You can call it pop shuv it late foot body varial, but its just pretty unfair because my , althought it is done with toes, its not really late, I started the flip pretty early.

Since I'm doing the video, I'm trying to figure out how to label it :D. I am trying it exactly as you were. Landed upside down a few times and landed with one foot a few times.

Instead of a pop shuvit late flip body varial, which would imply a late body varial, I think its a pop shuvit body varial late flip.

No way dude, a pop shove-it body varial late flip would be a totally different trick (much harder in my opinion), like a pop shove-it body varial, then a late flip from the opposite edge of the board, Sonix definitely did a pop shove-it late flip body varial, regardless of how mobbed it was, end of story.

And Sonix, it's definitely late.

Guys I want to skate when I get home from school. Can I just do what he did, or is he going to have to reset?

Guys I want to skate when I get home from school. Can I just do what he did, or is he going to have to reset?

I'd say let's count it as a shove-it late flip body varial (mobbed or not), or the game is just going to get stuck for a while.

I don't care anymore. But it is lame, because inward heel can be done with toes. I've seen countless of these counting in game of skates. If you all say so, all right its a pop shuv it late flip body varial. http://youtube.com/watch?v=grWe9YIRO5M This is late, while my is flipped at the time normal inward heel would be, its just using my toes instead of heel.

I don't care anymore. But it is lame, because inward heel can be done with toes. I've seen countless of these counting in game of skates. If you all say so, all right its a pop shuv it late flip body varial. http://youtube.com/watch?v=grWe9YIRO5M This is late, while my is flipped at the time normal inward would be, its just using my toes instead of heel.

Dude, I don't mean to come off as a prick or anything but really, I've been doing inward heels and shove late flips for years, I know exactly how both tricks work, I've met countless people with different techniques for shove late flips, I've seen more videos from the early 90's than you've probably ever seen, so you don't need to link me to a hundred of YouTube clips, just take my word for it when I tell you that your trick was a shove late flip variation. Even your 'inward heel' in this video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_0IWXs9OaY was a shove-it late flip, I noticed it a month ago when I first saw it, I think it's blatantly obvious that you do a two-part trick, here's how a real inward heel is supposed to look : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_XyNo1Us_g

Inward heels done that late by kicking straight down with the toes are shove-it late flips (mob style), and if you've seen them count as inward heels in games of SKATE then the people hosting these games were just wrong. End of story.

I'm gonna barge in here.

I think the set does look like a lateflip thing.

Although personally I disagree on the inward heel that MRCK just posted... sort of because I bet more people would disagree if you called it a shove lateflip, but yeah. MRCK has a bit more authority on that. It looks just like the "inward heel" daniel castillo did into manual to pivot to fakie in Skate More to me.

And just to confuse the issue, I do the flip on my nollie laserflips with just my toes, and I certainly wouldn't call them nollie-backside-pop-shove-it -late-backfoot-hardflips :).

I bet everyone wished I never posted now heh. I am the confuzor!

By the way, I never realised you were from Slovenia sonix, thats like where my family is half from. Thats cool. I'd like to go there someday.

All right, I'm going to skate out now and try "real' inward heelflip. If I don't film one, it will be pop shuv late flip.
@Roboman, your welcome anytime. ^^

(That inward heel was on es game of skate slovenia, by some friend of mine)

Although personally I disagree on the inward heel that MRCK just posted... sort of because I bet more people would disagree if you called it a shove lateflip, but yeah. MRCK has a bit more authority on that. It looks just like the "inward heel" daniel castillo did into manual to pivot to fakie in Skate More to me.

Castillo's inward heel didn't look like a shove late flip at all, it was all one motion, he just happened to kick down instead of out, but it was still an inward heel. Sonix does a full pop shove-it, then kicks straight down on what becomes the toe-side of the deck with his toes (which is even more obvious in the slow-mo at the end of his vid), therefore the flip looks seperate from the spin, the only difference with the other shove late flips that have been posted in this thread before is that he kicks somewhere near the back trucks bolts, instead of the front truck bolts, but it's still a shove late flip.

And just to confuse the issue, I do the flip on my nollie laserflips with just my toes, and I certainly wouldn't call them nollie-backside-pop-shove-it -late-backfoot-hardflips :).

I personally would if the flip looked as seperate from the spin as it does on Sonix's inward heels, I know it's not the case though (I just checked your nollie laser flip video on YouTube).

Sonix, I stopped trusting the éS Game of SKATE organizers when they started to count b/s 180 to pivots as backside 360's ;) Also in the video of the latest French éS Game of SKATE one guy does an impossible and his opponent matches with a 360 shove... Meh.

I refilmed my set. I just uploaded to youtube. Should be up any minute.
ill edit once it on.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=C_XOtzy7Z2c
here it is.

This is the way I used to do them, but they were ugly and I just learned the pop shuv it late flip way(something between thought) and they were a lot more consistant, so I stopped doing them. Still got them I guess.

MRCK, although i would agree about the original set, i think you're kind of crazy to say that sonix' inward heel down those stairs was late. i have it paused where the board is at about 45 degrees, and it's already flipped a quarter of the way. If that's late, then i'm calling my tre flips 360 shove it late flips from now on.

check out this guy's inward heels: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Lf3CtHca10 . they're in the same mobby fashion with his toes, but there's no way you could call that late. I've done both variations, and although there is a line to be crossed, sonix' and the one above were far from it.

also, my friend tony has the best heelflips i've ever seen, and he flips them with his toes. he actually wears out the kickflip spot of his shoes doing them.

and nice rematch sonix. that was perfect.

Aron, as I said before it doesn't matter for straight heelflips if you use your toes or your heel since there's no varial involved, therefore the trick can't turn into a late flip variation whatsoever ; but as far as inward heels are concerned, as you said there's a line to be crossed. I still think Sonix's 'inward heel' down the 4 was a really mobbed shove-it late flip, or at least a shove-it late flip / inward heel hybrid, but I guess it depends on how you look at it, his trick is probably right on that line we are talking about. However, the guy in the video you posted does them in one fluid motion and kicks down with his heel, so it's acceptable as an inward heelflip, but when you're brought to use your toes it only means that you delay the flip too much in relation to the varial, making it a shove-it late flip, the shove-it doesn't have to be 100% complete before the late flip, it looks nicer when it is but it doesn't change the nature of the trick if it's not - as long as it relies on the shove-it late flip technique, it's a shove-it late flip regardless of how it eventually looks. Also 360 flips and shove-it late varial flips (I hate that '360 shove-it late flip' name, a 360 shove-it late flip would be a different trick) don't even flip the same way therefore there's no possible comparison (however shove-it late varial flips flip like 360 inward heels, and a lot of so-called '360 inwards' I've seen were actually shove-it late varials, including my own).

I agree about Sonix's rematch though, it was picture perfect and clarifies everything :)

good rematch sonix. this will probably be hard for me just because i do my inwards so well... i hate the poke in your foot and retract it method and instead i opt for doing it through the legs (like opposite hardflips). but the body varial is going to make it tough to do it that way so we'll see

Yea I landed few like you do yours too (like kicking it forward around) and adding a body varial to that is pretty hard. You might try like I did, just kinda kick down and little around with heel.

i got close, but my camera died like 30 mins in to my skating today. try it later i will!

http://media.putfile.com/close-to-itt

i got close, but my camera died like 30 mins in to my skating today. try it later i will!

http://media.putfile.com/close-to-itt
holy moly! please land it that high and really clean :)

I got a really close one today:
http://media.putfile.com/inwardbv

So I'm assuming we now have some sort of extra time? This really stinks. The majority of my skate time during the week is my two hours at the skatepark. I just spent a large portion of that trying shovit late flip body varial.....I recently relearned inward heels though, so I might be able to land it.

I get what you're saying MRCK, but i don't think anyone would accept that as a match had a pop shove it late flip been set.

Ugh........*shudder....

Tried this trick for about 40 minutes tonight, and I absolutely HATED IT! Just starting to attempt it brought back horrible memories of trying that trick for at least 10 hours.....

I really really hope that I won't lose TWO games by the same trick...(lost POGOS2 to bguitarist 34 because he set this.)

You all have until February 9th 08:04 PM +1 GMT. or 02:04 PM EST
4 Days from my post in tricks thread.

You all have until February 9th 08:04 PM +1 GMT. or 02:04 PM EST
4 Days from my post in tricks thread.
Okay. At 11:04 am my time (can't do it that morning). So basically my match is due by friday. Thankfully, watching my attempts. They look sorta closer than they I thought that they would.

As far as I'm concerned I've never even thought of trying this trick before :) My inward heels are sort of decent, but doing them with a body varial is going to feel really weird.

Errr, what are the odds that the one I filmed counts? I don't exactly have a board right now so I'm not sure if I'll be able to get a better one.

I personally wouldn't count it because of the huge toe-drag, sorry :tongue:

As far as I am concerned, I gave this one try today, and almost ended up credit carding myself... So I don't think I really want to give it a second shot :)

Yea too much toe drag and you stopped for a second. You still have few days and since you got so close already, I think you could get it. Unless you get your board after the match deadline.

I just saw atrains tries, wow they are really high and nice. I actually want to see that landed.

I personally wouldn't count it because of the huge toe-drag, sorry :tongue:

As far as I am concerned, I gave this one try today, and almost ended up credit carding myself... So I don't think I really want to give it a second shot :)

MRCK is unconcerned as he knows that he can kill us all with some crazy set. I vote for something to get varial out with. I don't wanna try that gazelle bf underflip :D. But, if anything, I just don't wanna die on this set! Going out to try it again now.
Merging doublepost
Update: I got kinda....close today. I'll upload an attempt and you guys can help me with what I'm doing wrong. I can't figure out how to get my backfoot all the way around.

well i tried again today, got close (landed & slipped out, toe touched, etc) but no cigar. looks like im about done in this game! seeing as i dont expect a chance with mrcks set

well i tried again today, got close (landed & slipped out, toe touched, etc) but no cigar. looks like im about done in this game! seeing as i dont expect a chance with mrcks set
We still have one more day. I'm tired though...

at this point maybe I'll just let MRCK edit it if he wants. There were barely even any tricks in it!

I'll bet a million in cash MRCK's set wins the game.

I'll bet a million in cash MRCK's set wins the game.
I think that is very clear. I wish I would have landed at least one more trick so that I could stay in this. Maybe I'll try to match MRCK's just for fun.

Haha, Qtip already knows what I'm likely to set though, so after you give him his cash, go to court and sue the heck out of him :)

Royalgriffin, I thought your edit looked as good as it could get so far last time you posted a version of it, so it may be worth finishing it, unless you don't want to do it anymore of course (in which case I could do one myself).

Haha, Qtip already knows what I'm likely to set though, so after you give him his cash, go to court and sue the heck out of him :)

Royalgriffin, I thought your edit looked as good as it could get so far last time you posted a version of it, so it may be worth finishing it, unless you don't want to do it anymore of course (in which case I could do one myself).
I would like to finish it, but I'm thinking are are quite a few files now that are on putfile or stuff that I don't have. If you think I should, though, I'll finish.

MORRTALLL KOMBAAATT (song)

It's my time to set now right ? :) Which makes the player list look as follows :

1. Sonix - SKAT
2. MRCK - SKAT
3. Qtip - SKAT
5. atrain - SKAT

Going to upload the potential finisher in a minute :icon_woow

Erm, we still have 6 hours to match.

Aah crap, I thought Sonix's post in the tricks thread said 8 AM when it actually said 8 PM... And the new set is up now. Shouldn't matter though, you still have the few remaining hours to match Sonix's trick, and matching time for mine will start when it was originally supposed to. Good luck !

Wow interesting set. Its like pressure 360 hardflip flip but at 1/2 interfered with front foot and guided with it. Looks fun but hard aswell.

btw, doesn't Qtip have SKAT? and the one he did didn't count so shouldn't he be out? Except if he matches now.

Wow interesting set. Its like pressure 360 hardflip flip but at 1/2 interfered with front foot and guided with it. Looks fun but hard aswell.

btw, doesn't Qtip have SKAT? and the one he did didn't count so shouldn't he be out? Except if he matches now.

Its just you, atrain, and a big bag of MRCK induced ownage....

eek. i can't even do pressure flips that way... after staring at the slomo for the past 20 mins i can imagine it in my head but that is far from being able to do it. i highly doubt i'll be able to match this, but i'm gonna try anyway, because if i do somehow get it i'll be just as mean as this lol

denacem, weirdly enough I'm sure you could actually learn the trick I'm planning on setting, I think you have all its basic components down, I may be wrong though, time will tell us :)
ha! you're wrong :) i can't actually do any kind of impossible at all. is this something like a pressure half hardflip, then the front foot does kind of a half impossilbe from behind? it looks so weird.. however, i dont think i could ever do that.

ha! you're wrong :) i can't actually do any kind of impossible at all. is this something like a pressure half hardflip, then the front foot does kind of a half impossilbe from behind? it looks so weird.. however, i dont think i could ever do that.

It looks to me like a pressure hardflip late front foot antihospital flip, but thats just me. BTW, denacem, have AIM?

Would it count if I did like pressure hard late anti-casper/hospital flip. Just pushing with my finger to add another 180.
I broke my board doing normal ff impossible today :o but already have new one ready. I'll go try this a bit more tomorrow.

Would it count if I did like pressure hard late anti-casper/hospital flip. Just pushing with my finger to add another 180.

It would depend on how your trick ends up looking I guess, the main idea behind my trick is really to do a 3/4 h/s pressure flip late front foot impossible, I cheat mine a bit by popping a pressure hard to get extra pop but it doesn't change the fact that there still is a wrap. Therefore if you did a 360 pressure hard with a subtle toe tap in the middle it wouldn't count. But if you ended up guiding the board around with your toes I would probably count it.

Actually I think its easier to add shuv it then another 180 to pressure flip, because I suck at pressure hard flip. I probably won't get this anyway thought ^^

Man, This is one of the quickest games of skate I've seen. Such unique and tech tricks put down. That's a killer set too Mrck. Such an intimidating name yet I think it's easier then it sounds. I think I actually would have done well if I had entered.
Good luck ya'll and can't wait for the next game ( which there is a small chance of me entering. As of right now I can't nollie / switch flip because it puts my ankle in an awkward position that doesnt feel right yet. We'll see though, now you know my weakness.......:()

Man, This is one of the quickest games of skate I've seen. Such unique and tech tricks put down. That's a killer set too Mrck. Such an intimidating name yet I think it's easier then it sounds. I think I actually would have done well if I had entered.
Good luck ya'll and can't wait for the next game ( which there is a small chance of me entering. As of right now I can't nollie / switch flip because it puts my ankle in an awkward position that doesnt feel right yet. We'll see though, now you know my weakness.......:()
Same with Qtip this game. Now bguitarists sets will hurt even more people! This is one of the first games I've seen where there are hardly any matches. I mean, 24 posts in the tricks thread? For an entire game? (Assuming that no one matches). The game started December 18, which means its only taking about 2 months. I feel like I could have done so much more if it hadn't been raining here. Not even on the matches, just my set. Maybe if I had had a chance to try some more tricks I might have landed something more worthwhile like gazelle spin or 540 double flip. If that had happened I would be here stressing out of MRCK's set instead of you guys :D. But anyway, I thought I did pretty bad until I realized I tied for fourth. Maybe next game play to SKATEBOARD, seeing as how the setting order made a massive difference in the game?

This game was amazingly intense. I've decided to retired from the Games of Skate for now, for personal reasons. I'll definitely still follow the next one though.

lol. good luck with mrck's set guys ;)

Ah I'm out already. My ankle has minor damage so I can't do much. Mostly skating switch/nollie now.
...not that I would get that, haha.

It was fun playing with everyone. Some unique and fun tricks.

Ah I'm out already. My ankle has minor damage so I can't do much. Mostly skating switch/nollie now.
...not that I would get that, haha.

It was fun playing with everyone. Some unique and fun tricks.

You in for next game?

Yea of course. My ankles gonna be al right with few days of rest. Its nothing serious.

@Royalgriffin , you gonna start the next pogos?

Yea of course. My ankles gonna be al right with few days of rest. Its nothing serious.

@Royalgriffin , you gonna start the next pogos?
I was waiting for everyone to finish up. So far we have:

goblinskater
son1x
royalgriffin


hopefully we can grab a few more skaters and maybe varial would like to see if he can land that nollie gazelle bf underflip for another handsign :D. Vimon, who won the last game in part because of my business with this game, and part because he owns me, said he couldn't play the next one, so for now its just us.

May I ask, what's POGOS again ? :)

May I ask, what's POGOS again ? :)
Its the name of the game of skate site I started awhile ago thats in my sig. We all (or some of us) head down there when skaterscafe is not currently running games. Care to play MRCK? (haha rhymes)

MRCK wins?

Congrats Aymeric :D

that's how it seems.. congrats mrck!
i hope i won't miss the signups for the next game -.-

Thanks :) It was a good game, the tricks that went down were really interesting for the most part in my opinion, I enjoyed being in this, thanks to everyone who played.

congrats MRCK,
hopefully i might join the next game if dont miss the signups,lol.

Wowzorz, the tricks were quite incredible, and I'm glad I wasn't in it heh. Congratulations Mister CK.

Congrats MRCK! Kicking tail once again! :)

Grats MRCK! Nice ending trick too.

Advanced GOS is open to whomever want's to host it...Just pm me your willingness to host it and its yours (must be a member who's actually PLAYING in the game).

good job on the win MRCK!

For anyone who wants. www.pogos.tk is starting a game in a little bit. Signups are now
!