GoSkate
05-25-2008, 09:05 PM
i think thats how you spell em haha, but i havent read the bible in a while and i forgot why they were whiped out. can someone tell me please?
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View Full Version : sodom and gomorrah GoSkate 05-25-2008, 09:05 PM i think thats how you spell em haha, but i havent read the bible in a while and i forgot why they were whiped out. can someone tell me please? razz 05-25-2008, 09:11 PM Genesis 19:24-25 24Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven; 25And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground. "overthrew....all the inhabitants of the cities" In other words, all you need to know is a sadistical character decided that it's not the criminals that pay, but everyone around them. By the way, God loves you...doesn't he? GoSkate 05-25-2008, 09:17 PM yeah he does razz 05-25-2008, 09:24 PM lol, it was a rhetorical question, lmao man I love this forum GoSkate 05-25-2008, 09:25 PM meh, i dont really come in here..i avoid fights and stuff over the internet aronsamma 05-25-2008, 09:39 PM In other words, all you need to know is a sadistical character decided that it's not the criminals that pay, but everyone around them. By the way, God loves you...doesn't he? not exactly: Consequently Jehovah said: “The cry of complaint about Sod′om and Go·mor′rah, yes, it is loud, and their sin, yes, it is very heavy. 21*I am quite determined to go down that I may see whether they act altogether according to the outcry over it that has come to me, and, if not, I can get to know it.” 22*At this point the men turned from there and got on their way to Sod′om; but as for Jehovah, he was still standing before Abraham. 23*Then Abraham approached and began to say: “Will you really sweep away the righteous with the wicked? 24*Suppose there are fifty righteous men in the midst of the city. Will you, then, sweep them away and not pardon the place for the sake of the fifty righteous who are inside it? 25*It is unthinkable of you that you are acting in this manner to put to death the righteous man with the wicked one so that it has to occur with the righteous man as it does with the wicked! It is unthinkable of you. Is the Judge of all the earth not going to do what is right?” 26*Then Jehovah said: “If I shall find in Sod′om fifty righteous men in the midst of the city I will pardon the whole place on their account.” 27*But Abraham went on to answer and say: “Please, here I have taken upon myself to speak to Jehovah, whereas I am dust and ashes. 28*Suppose the fifty righteous should be lacking five. Will you for the five bring the whole city to ruin?” To this he said: “I shall not bring it to ruin if I find there forty-five.” 29*But yet again he spoke further to him and said: “Suppose forty are found there.” In turn he said: “I shall not do it on account of the forty.” 30*But he continued: “May Jehovah, please, not grow hot with anger, but let me go on speaking: Suppose thirty are found there.” In turn he said: “I shall not do it if I find thirty there.” 31*But he continued on: “Please, here I have taken upon myself to speak to Jehovah: Suppose twenty are found there.” In turn he said: “I shall not bring it to ruin on account of the twenty.” 32*Finally he said: “May Jehovah, please, not grow hot with anger, but let me speak just this once: Suppose ten are found there.” In turn he said: “I shall not bring it to ruin on account of the ten.” 33*Then Jehovah went his way when he had finished speaking to Abraham, and Abraham returned to his place. so, there weren't even ten righteous ones there. they were given warning too, for anyone who would listen: Genesis 19:14 - and he kept on saying: "Get up! Get out of this place, because Jehovah is bringing the city to ruin!" bbengyak 05-25-2008, 11:16 PM What I've always wondered about Sodom and Gomorrah is what happened to free will? Most Christians on here claim that God gives us free will, right? Now the people of Sodom and Gomorrah had that free will, right? So what does the message of this story convey, you have free will but if you don't use in the way that God wants you to he will destroy you? That doesn't sound so free to me. The people of both cities would have suffered eternally in hell for their sins when they died anyways so why is God punishing them especially for using the very thing that He gave them? Are they not allowed to use this free will as they please but only as God sees fit? How free is that? McCrank 05-26-2008, 02:45 AM It's not supposed to make sense. http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa74/harrowlawl/sciencevsreligion.jpg Higher-Class 05-26-2008, 12:48 PM I explained this in another thread, and I'm lazy, so here ya go. In the Bible, God destroys these cities because the men of the city were rude to the divine strangers who had come to pass judgment on Sodom, and they tried to rape them. Rape was (and still is lol) considered to be the most awful form of humiliation. God ridded these people from society because they were completely inhospitable and sexually perverse, not because they were homosexual. fall from grace 05-27-2008, 01:51 PM wikipedia. It's alot faster than us, trust me |
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