View Full Version : Is This Member of the Cafe Brainwashed?


razz
06-03-2008, 12:07 AM
One of the best (and most) used arguments I get from Theists (here and in real life) is argument #99 from "300 Proofs for God"

ARGUMENT FROM OFFENSE
(1) God exists.
(2) [Atheist makes counterarguments.]
(3) You know what? I am offended.
(4) Therefore, God exists.



Now, I was in the Christian section and saw this (hilarious) post:

A blog I posted on my myspace:

I'm completely disgusted by today's society! It really ticks me off! We have left the Christian principles this nation was founded on to seek after other Gods, as did the nation of Israel in the past. In modern American society, we lock up those who murder adults, but the govt. pays for the murder of unborn infants on a daily basis. We recognize homosexual couples as "an alternate lifestyle." Divorce is as common as marriage. Sex has become a pastime. Lying has become OK, as long as it helps you to get ahead. Drug abuse has become a normal activity throughout high school, adults attributing it to age and considering it normal. Whores who decide to get naked in front of a camera become artists. Most "churches" in America are full of hypocrites and the leaders are nothing more than people making good speeches to get more money, and the Holy Spirit is not with them (not dissing all preachers, or even most in this area, but the majority of churches in America fall in with the Spirit of the Age: the church of Laodicea) And last but not least, along with this, those who actually follow the laws of Jesus Christ are persecuted and those laws are discouraged throughout even schools in America. A spirit of anger and rebellion plagues today's youth, but from what they're around, how is it hard to believe? A growing problem in youth in America and around the world is self-harm, drug abuse (which is considered normal, remember), and suicide, all spawning from the depression that overtakes them in this sickly sinful society. I hate the ways of this society! They are an abomination against the LORD Almighty! Unborn babies are just as human as us. How does being a fetus make them unhuman, and to deserve death at the mother's, who (in most cases) got quite a bit of enjoyment out of making the baby, request? Since when does homosexuality, which is an abomination in the sight of the LORD, get the right to be considered natural? Since when did Jesus take back that to divorce and remarry, accept in the case of adultery, is considered adultery? How is it that sex, which bonds a couple and can really mess you up if the two of you don't stay together, become the best thing for couples (or even singles with prostitutes) to have since sliced bread? How does success as an outcome make honesty obselete? What makes drug abuse so normal for teenagers to dabble with, to the point that a parent won't worry about it? How is a ball of lustful thought considered an art? Since when can the church be successful without the power of the Holy Ghost, 3rd person of the God-head, running the activity, when Jesus himself stressed it so much? How do we have the right to teach these sickening morals to today's youth through the media, doctors, and even our schools? But one question I can answer, and it gives a partial answer to the rest. Why are the righteous persecuted? Because it has been since time began. Abel was killed by Caine because God accepted Abel. David was sought be Saul to be put to death. Jesus commented even on the many many prophets killed in Jerusalem. John the Baptist was beheaded. Jesus was crucified. Paul was beheaded. Peter was crucified upside-down. Throughout most church history, those who truly stood up for their king were persecuted, and in the end executed. Our society is run by Satan, and it saddens me. Oh God, have mercy on America!

So, I decided to do something. I decided to take a snippet of his posts, switched the names around and the result was this:

Since when can the church be successful without the power of the Holy Macaroni, 3rd person of the Batman-head, running the activity, when SpongeBob himself stressed it so much? How do we have the right to teach these sickening morals to today's youth through the media, doctors, and even our schools? But one question I can answer, and it gives a partial answer to the rest. Why are the believers of BATMAN persecuted? Because it has been since time began. Larry the Cable guy was killed by Spiderman because BATMAN accepted Larry the Cable Guy. Eminem was sought be 50-cent to be put to death. SpongeBob commented even on the many many prophets killed in Jerusalem. The Power Rangers were beheaded. SpongeBob was crucified. Homer Simpson was beheaded. Mickey-Mouse was crucified upside-down. Throughout most church history, those who truly stood up for their king were persecuted, and in the end executed. Our society is run by BIGFOOT!, and it saddens me. Oh BATMAN, have mercy on America!

Now look at that, I simply changed the names and if you heard someone on the street screaming those things out you would think they needed to be locked up in a mental asylum

To think this ignorant little child isnt brainwashed is just ignorant in itself.

Leo Leonardo
06-03-2008, 12:12 AM
Wow Razz, you point out things I would never realize if it weren't for you.

McCrank
06-03-2008, 01:02 AM
What's funny about Izzy is that he says everyone are hypocrites, but yet he is a true follower of Jesus. Already here is he putting himself above everyone else.

You don't even need to change out the names to make that quote sound utterly retarded.

SINFUL SOCIETY AN ABOMINATION AGAINST THE LORD ALMIGHTY

Seriously someone really need help. Look at how much anger he gets from his beliefs...

pooldogfromoz
06-03-2008, 05:15 AM
Mickey-Mouse was crucified upside-down!

Paul J
06-03-2008, 07:21 AM
Yep, brainwashed by his parents most likely when he was young. [a guess]

No-one could become that christian by themselves, they have to brainwash others, it's the only possible way of making someone make an idiot out of themselves and believe in rediculous things.

Izzy's biggest fear in life is probably hell. This probably scared him into trying to be a good person. It's the only reason why christians believe in what they're saying, to make god happy so they won't go to hell.

Dragongurl288
06-03-2008, 07:37 AM
I would say brainwashed, but pious and totally hypocritical yes!!! I was completely peeved at that thread. I wanted to comment on it, but I was too pissed to put it intellegently. And what was that about a "ball of lustful thought" being art? What the hell? People like that are one of the main reasons I left church. Religios figures are the new Politicians.

Izzy: I'd like to go on record as saying I am Christian, and I fully support artistic freedom, gay rights, and abortion.

Labrie
06-03-2008, 07:38 AM
Hmm.. I really don't know what you people are talking about..
But you guys should stop arguing and discussing about belief and ethics.

We all look at things differently; we can't always be agreed.

/Speech finished. :)

swordman540
06-03-2008, 07:42 AM
Know what's worse

He'll still think he's right even after reading this

silentscary
06-03-2008, 08:41 AM
why do you feel the need to make personal attacks?

Izzy
06-03-2008, 09:55 AM
Yep, brainwashed by his parents most likely when he was young. [a guess]

No-one could become that christian by themselves, they have to brainwash others, it's the only possible way of making someone make an idiot out of themselves and believe in rediculous things.

Izzy's biggest fear in life is probably hell. This probably scared him into trying to be a good person. It's the only reason why christians believe in what they're saying, to make god happy so they won't go to hell.

Honestly, I could've cared less about hell when I came to Jesus. I had drug dependence, I had a porn addiction, I cussed like a sailor, and much else. I didn't care about hell, and honestly I didn't even really believe I was going there (though had I died I'd've found myself sadly mistaken). I came to Jesus because I had nowhere else to go. I believe in Jesus not out of fear of hell, because if Jesus was who he is, but all his followers went to hell, I'd still follow him, because to be seperated from his love IS a hell in itself, worse than fire and brimstone. I follow Jesus because I love him and he's taken my life full of bondage and set me free, not because of fear.

What's funny about Izzy is that he says everyone are hypocrites, but yet he is a true follower of Jesus. Already here is he putting himself above everyone else.

You don't even need to change out the names to make that quote sound utterly retarded.

SINFUL SOCIETY AN ABOMINATION AGAINST THE LORD ALMIGHTY

Seriously someone really need help. Look at how much anger he gets from his beliefs...
I didn't say EVERYONE were hypocrites. I say, and still believe whole-heartedly, that many people who claim Christianity are hypocrites. REAL Christians, people who follow Jesus and walk in light and not darkness, don't drink, don't fornicate, don't do drugs, don't cuss, don't screw the same sex, and don't live in a lifestyle of darkness all in all. I'm not saying they never sin, because everybody does (including me), but nonetheless they don't make it a lifestyle, and they DEFINITELY don't justify it. Yet I see "Christians" everyday who do those very things. How can you claim to live for Jesus when you disobey his every command? That's what I mean by the majority in America (and most 1st world countries for that matter) are hypocrites. And as for the anger, look how angry Jesus got at those selling in the temple. The Bible says it's fine to be angry, but not to sin in the anger (For example, though I'm angry at this nation for abortion, it would be wrong of me to go blow up an abortion clinic. That's what that means.)

Daniel Jones
06-03-2008, 10:07 AM
I find the flaming in this thread pretty sick. Locked.