this trick is CRAZYweird. i almost landed one today, idk if i was even trying very much, but i just kinda spun it and 1 footed it (front foot) and i was half asleep. but it jolted me awake cuz i can never seem to get them AT ALL. i wanna try to learn it without losing my nuts though. i tried 'em for like 5 mins after that, and i got the spin OK on some, but i was just scared for the dear life of my manhood. i found that my most common problem was the flick. i can pop it up and forward like front shuv, but it's lots more vertical. however, when i flick, the board goes back in like a forward flip motion, so i can't land unless its 1/2 hardflip late 1/2 forward flip to face smash. any advice on keeping it smooth? thanks alot :icon_bunc