but its so hard to choose. im look for price around 400-750
and it should be harddrive, use fire wire or i link, and work with windows movie maker or have a editing softwear that comes with it that have the same or better quality of movie maker. (my comps windows vista) and also if u have the website please send and help me with a fish eye.

For teh fish eye the best way to go is getting a Kenko or a Opteka

I really don't think you should get into harddrive camcorders. First off, if you drop them the hard drive breaks really easily. You're f*cked if your out 400 bucks for that cam then. Especially if your gunna be filming skating and you have the possibilty of dropping it, its not a good idea for hard drive cams. 2nd, you're sacrificing some quality with a hard drive camera.

I would suggest getting a Panasonic GS-320. I just got it and its a beautiful 3CCD camera which is great for its price. Its only about $350 which will save you enough money to get a fisheye for it. Im pretty sure a lot of people will agree with me that it is a good camera to start off filming with, or even a good second camera.

Panasonic Gs 320
http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-PV-GS320-Camcorder-Optical-Stabilized/dp/B000M4LXIW/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1212851037&sr=8-1

that does look like a pretty good cam. the only thing is that i have a mini dv camcorder sony and its like 7 years old and the quality is really good. but it always eats the tapes and i am look for a advance in technolgly like it would be sick that i can delete the footage rite from a hard drive. and do you know if this camcorder have a firewire port? and does it work with movie maker?

as for the fisheye, i'd recommend the kenko sgw-043

If you're looking for a good 3CCD camera or a prosumer camera then i wouldn't get a kenko fisheye. Get a real nice one if you're going to spend a lot on a camera.

that does look like a pretty good cam. the only thing is that i have a mini dv camcorder sony and its like 7 years old and the quality is really good. but it always eats the tapes and i am look for a advance in technolgly like it would be sick that i can delete the footage rite from a hard drive. and do you know if this camcorder have a firewire port? and does it work with movie maker?

Hey, I have the Panasonic GS-320 with an Opteka Fisheye. I love it. So much. You can re-write over your old footage on the camera, its a MiniDV and has GREAT QUALITY, because of the 3CCD and O.I.S.

It has a firewire port!

It works great with movie maker.


However, I am deciding to become more professional and get a Canon GL2 or Sony VX2100.


The GS0-320 is awesome, I recommend it to you for sure!
If you can dish out a little more money... The Canon HV30 is amazing. I don't have it, but that + a baby death lens = LEGITTTTTTT

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http://www.amazon.com/Canon-HV30-Definition-Camcorder-Stabilized/dp/B00114PN1U/ref=dp_ob_title?ie=UTF8&qid=1212885560&sr=1-1

alright that Canon HV30 look super amazing. but is the video format supported my moviemaker? and does it have firewire port on it?