ok, here is my rant.

Religion, Beliefs, Ideas.

All related in some way. Some people are atheists. Some believe in God. Some are neutral and could care less.

here's the thing. i am sick of all this hate! In fact, i don't even know why there is this section of the forum. all its doing it causing online fights.

Listen,

If you believe in God, that is fine. But don't try to inflict your beliefs upon others that don't believe in God as well.

and

If you don't believe in God then fine, but don't be saying that religious people are dumb for their ideas and beliefs.

not one group knows more than the other. It's not like one of the groups has all the secrets!

we are humans. we can believe what we want to believe. but please let's stay peaceful and open minded here.

well, that's all i gotta say. take it or leave it.....

I'll take it.

ill leave it

if people want to debate eachothers beliefs
its all in good fun

ill leave it

if people want to debate eachothers beliefs
its all in good fun

but then you got the Israeli and Palestinian War which is all over the belief that Israel is each other's land.

and thousands of people are dying because of that....

i know this isn't as drastic but i am just putting out a point that conflicts with beliefs can become huge and deadly.

Well I gotta say it's all in good fun. Really who gets upset, offended, angry etc. over the internet? No one.

I will say what I think and so should everyone else. Really what the f*ck we gonna do in here if everyone just goes "YEAH IT'S FINE YOU BELIEVE IT BLA BLA BLA".

As for open minded. I am dangerously open minded. I will hop on any bandwagon. Not the God bandwagon though because it doesn't make any sense.

uhhm, excuse me, but this is the debate section, if you don't like debating your faith then there's a nice cozy Christian section where you could talk about how Godless America is (see Izzy).

Other than that, I don't think it's right to "let it be" when it comes to faith because faith is influencing politics and quite frankly I don't like it. Everything from stem cell research to gay marriage to "creationism" actually wanting to be taught AS A SCIENCE - it's just stupid, I refuse to respect that.


we are humans. we can believe what we want to believe. but please let's stay peaceful and open minded here.

You're a hypocrite, you know how I know that?

Want to?

Because if someone in here said "I think molesting children is great!" or "Sure, I am a misogynist...and I only say that because women are useless" ---- would you say:
"we are humans. we can believe what we want to believe. but please let's stay peaceful and open minded here."

Open minded to a chauvinist? Or a pedophile? Obviously not...

What's the difference when it comes to people who think you're not good enough to go to Heaven, and think you deserve to burn in an eternal hellfire for not subscribing to their faith?

Go to dictionary.com

search up debate.

ok razz,

1. this is the "Religion and Politics" section, not the "Debate" section
2. your comparison is not even reasonable. you can't compare open minded-ness to religion/beliefs with molestation. you chose a really outrageous opposing side to make my statement seem dumb. if your going to make me look dumb, at least do it in a realistic manner.

razz, i am not going to start a fight with you, because frankly, i could care less. winning an argument over the internet is like winning the special olympics. yea, you won, but you're still retarded.
Merging doublepost
Go to dictionary.com

search up debate.

debate - "1. a discussion, as of a public question in an assembly, involving opposing viewpoints: a debate in the Senate on farm price supports.
2. a formal contest in which the affirmative and negative sides of a proposition are advocated by opposing speakers.
3. deliberation; consideration.
4. Archaic. strife; contention.
–verb (used without object)
5. to engage in argument or discussion, as in a legislative or public assembly: When we left, the men were still debating.
6. to participate in a formal debate.
7. to deliberate; consider: I debated with myself whether to tell them the truth or not.
8. Obsolete. to fight; quarrel.
–verb (used with object)
9. to argue or discuss (a question, issue, or the like), as in a legislative or public assembly: They debated the matter of free will.
10. to dispute or disagree about: The homeowners debated the value of a road on the island.
11. to engage in formal argumentation or disputation with (another person, group, etc.): Jones will debate Smith. Harvard will debate Princeton.
12. to deliberate upon; consider: He debated his decision in the matter.
13. Archaic. to contend for or over.
[Origin: 1250–1300; (v.) ME debaten < OF debatre, equiv. to de- de- + batre to beat < L battere, earlier battuere; (n.) ME debat < OF, deriv. of debatre]
"

i see no "Religion" or "politics" in this definition sword ;)

Pardon me, but: "Religion and Politics This forum is for the discussion of religion & politics. All discussions will remain civil and all debates will remain in this section!"

I think I see the word "debate" in there...:icon_yes:

ok razz,

1. this is the "Religion and Politics" section, not the "Debate" section

Are you dumb? Read what it says:

Religion and Politics: This forum is for the discussion of religion & politics. All discussions will remain civil and all debates will remain in this section! You can only post here if you join this group, join by going to the UserCP and select "Group Membership".

And what do we do? We debate...what do we debate? Religion and politics.

2. your comparison is not even reasonable. you can't compare open minded-ness to religion/beliefs with molestation. you chose a really outrageous opposing side to make my statement seem dumb. if your going to make me look dumb, at least do it in a realistic manner.

What's different? Could you tell me?

What's the difference between thinking women are degenerates and thinking Atheists are degenerates? Is it because one crazy thought is so popularly believed that it's no longer considered crazy?

razz, i am not going to start a fight with you, because frankly, i could care less. winning an argument over the internet is like winning the special olympics. yea, you won, but you're still retarded.

Nice, did you think of that yourself?

Oh wait a second, no, no you didn't...you stole it, reused it, and put it into use in a conversation that ends up making you look like a moron.

This is the debate section, we debate here, do you honestly believe anyone cares about how you feel? This isn't AceofJackass.com - so here's an idea, go walk around 7-11 for a couple days, gather enough money, register the domain, install some forums, and then make up your own dumbass rules.

i see no "Religion" or "politics" in this definition sword ;)

Uuuh, that's because "debate" is used here in conjunction with "religion and politics", hence the Title & Description of the subforum.

Is it the fact that you can't read properly? I think that's it...

but then you got the Israeli and Palestinian War which is all over the belief that Israel is each other's land.

and thousands of people are dying because of that....

i know this isn't as drastic but i am just putting out a point that conflicts with beliefs can become huge and deadly.


thats what athiests argue agaisnt
if there was no religions, theyre would be no holy wars or fights over relgions
almost everywar has been over religion in some way.
and getting along ? relgion doesnt get along with other relgions it has to be supreme which is why i dont believe in any and strongly dislike them

leave it to razz to ruin a thread on being nice to each other....

o and razz, thanks for the neg rep. glad to see you choose a mature way to handle the situation.

you were being a hypocritical dumbass, and making retarted statements with such a ignorant view
and now that you have obviously lost the arguement and don't know enough to hold your side up you just resort to calling him an ass

I'd rather see it here than in the regular off topic. Discussions are going to happen no matter what, it's a hot topic. Can't clutter other sections with this stuff.

What's the difference between thinking women are degenerates and thinking Atheists are degenerates?

Atheists aren't degenerates...

Pardon me, but: "Religion and Politics This forum is for the discussion of religion & politics. All discussions will remain civil and all debates will remain in this section!"

I think I see the word "debate" in there...:icon_yes:

BURRRN!
Thank you Madison:icon_clap

Well I gotta say it's all in good fun. Really who gets upset, offended, angry etc. over the internet? No one.

I will say what I think and so should everyone else. Really what the f*ck we gonna do in here if everyone just goes "YEAH IT'S FINE YOU BELIEVE IT BLA BLA BLA".

As for open minded. I am dangerously open minded. I will hop on any bandwagon. Not the God bandwagon though because it doesn't make any sense.

Bragas does, at times.

lol:P

but seriously, this thread is epic fail. you say we should stay open minded, but you want to take away the religion and politics section? i mean, where is anybody gonna get any new ideas or get their believes influenced on the cafe if not there...

Bragas does, at times.

lol:P




mm again.

i was deeply dissappointed as the attacks were on on the sole reasoning of how i type.

not in any way did it relate to religion and politics.


i can become very passionate when i get into debates. very passionate.
but really this is just the internet and although i can get worked up about something it really doesnt matter.

we can debate all day long.
and its most likely that nothing will get solved. but it is very interesting seeing the perspectives of others indeed.

i think what AceofJacks is trying to say is that there needs to be a less personal approach to debating. Meaning no personal attacks, insults, "hate"- just sticking to the point and keeping calm and cool about it.

you were being a hypocritical dumbass, and making retarted statements with such a ignorant view
and now that you have obviously lost the arguement and don't know enough to hold your side up you just resort to calling him an ass

ignorant view on what? thinking the cafe should be more peaceful? thinking there should less attacks on people for beliefs?

i don't go around telling people that believing in God are dumb.

i also don't go around and tell atheists that they are retarded.

i am just trying to keep the love in this forum. the only reason i made this thread is because i felt the conflict involving Bragas and all the atheists on this site got out of hand.

razz and boobies, i didn't call you a single name. i am not going to be all hostile either for being called a dumbass. i really don't care. if that's what you think than fine.

ill take it

I enjoy this section, so do many others. Why should we not do things we enjoy that dont cause harm, simply because you dont like it?

No, as long as Dog Town is paying the bills, this section is staying. The point of having it is so that you CAN debate. If need be, just go into your User CP and block it. Thanks.

Closed.