I've been hearing a lot of stuff from Christians and my religion teacher that say that there was 1/100000000 chance that the world would have been created with the perfect conditions to give humanity a chance to survive if science caused humanity so therefore the world must have been created by some divine power because that would never happen. But I wanted to bring this to people's attention... it is very likely that that is the actual chance of humanity encountering the right conditions. However, this chance is very likely to occur. Sooner or later that is. Think about it this way. I have a dice. The only way I am allowed to move from GO and start a certain board game is if i roll a 1 on that dice. Now the chance I'm going to roll a 1 are 1/6, but if I keep rolling sooner or later I WILL get a 1. It may take me 1 roll or it may take me 30. Its all luck. The universe is just like this but with a VERY VERY VERY much bigger number. Now it keeps rolling its 1000000000 sided dice for billions of years until finally it lands on that 1 chance it needs and humanity springs forth. We don't know what happened before the big bang but it could easily be just this rolling of the dice until everything lines up and the universe is created. You see Christians? It COULD happen!

Sorry if something like this has been posted before I just wanted to share my thoughts.

Well Christians fully know it could happen(we are here lol), but it's not about the truth.

Religion is about fulfilling your selfish needs. You must have the answer for everything and then religion is the next natural step. Because it promises all the answers. Since deep down every human is greedy and religion let's them feed that greed and demand respect for it too.

A simple "I don't know" is not enough for these bastards so they will believe anything.

Well Christians fully know it could happen(we are here lol), but it's not about the truth.

Religion is about fulfilling your selfish needs. You must have the answer for everything and then religion is the next natural step. Because it promises all the answers. Since deep down every human is greedy and religion let's them feed that greed and demand respect for it too.

A simple "I don't know" is not enough for these bastards so they will believe anything.

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im with you (both the first posters), and the reason theres so many religious people is partly that many just grow up with it, and the others simply cant imagine infinity and that time etc has always been there, so they need someone to make up answers for them. thats why i generally think most (not all, ive seen intelligent christians on this forum) religious are pretty stupid and simply dont understand science.

The thing that is really silly is religion goes out of its way in half-baked attempts disprove science and of course fails miserably. Science is open to the possibility of the existence of God, science merely refuses to leap to that conclusion before having solid, undeniable evidence. If religious folks would simply leave well enough alone and not subject their ideas to scientific scrutiny, they could avoid being made to look foolish.

Claiming that the nature of planet earth is "too complex" or that the conditions are "too perfect to be random" is fallacious and not acceptable as scientific proof of an intelligent designer. Nature is complex, and the conditions of earth support life. Those are the facts. It's not scientific to embellish the facts with human traits or to decide that only intelligence could possibly have created such complexity or conditions.

The sheer size of the universe easily accounts for enough random scenarios to provide the correct one in a trillion chances, trillions of times over.

I can't believe people still use the "chance" argument and when you decide to ask them the chances of their immensely omnipotent omniscient God existing they tell you "it just is", or more recently "stop offending me!"

Listen, I don't care what you believe but don't try to belittle me and pretend you know what happens when we die. Today at work I had two dumb blondes come up to me with a "ticket to salvation" paper and handed it to me. I asked them one simple question:

"uuh, I appreciate this, but I just wanted to ask: how do you know this is true?"

Her response was, as usual, the same thing I'd expect "I've experienced Jesus". I then said "what about the Muslim who's experienced Allah? Or the Hindu that's experienced Krisha? They're lying and you're telling the truth, right?" She got pissed off, her friend mumbled something to her but I really didn't care and they left.

It's pretty amazing how they're so open to trying to convert you but when they're challenged they refuse to try.

It's pretty amazing how they're so open to trying to convert you but when they're challenged they refuse to try.

I guess when people believe in something that's incredibly unfounded, they easily buckle under pressure. <DN:)

I actually remember this one guy telling me that if he didn't try to convert me, he would be "doing a disservice" to me...So, then I waited for some type of reasoning which he was unable to provide. Sorry but, "because I feel Him" is not a logical enough reason for me. I then recommended he read the book God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything by Christopher Hitchens. He probably hasn't and never will. But had I not recommended it, I would've been "doing a disservice" to him. :icon_wink