This thread is going to ask the question: Have you really felt God?

I enjoy questioning my fath, and I feel it makes me wiser or stronger in what I believe to be right. This is by no stretch closemindedness, but mere question of facts, and other ways that we could think.

A lot of Christians claim that they have 'felt' God, the presence, 'voice' in their heart, or what have you. Many of us (including myself) have prayed for very specific things to happen, and they have occured the way we asked. This thread is not including prayer, however, but discussing the people who "know" God is real because of their own experiences with him.

What I ask is can you admit the possibility that this 'feeling' of God may not be him at all? After all, Muslims can claim to have felt him to, undoubtely. And really, who is to say they're wrong? Perhaps this feeling is more built on our own expectations and desires.

Instead, let us look at God from this viewpoint: that God is not revealing himself to us. At least, not outright, (this is why I excluded prayer because prayer can be questioned).

We all know the story of the Exodus, beginning with the slavery of the Israelites for 400+ years. I can find it easy to believe that many of them (possibly all) lost faith in God, because he didn't respond to them, he did not talk to them. What is to say that God is not doing the same now? That he chooses to remain quiet, absent, invisible. Until the second coming.

This point appears valid, when you include the past ways God has revealed himself. Elijah and the burning altars, Daniel and the 4 people in the burning furnace, splitting the red sea, Jesus raising the dead. All are undeniable miracles.

What I present is the idea that God chooses to hide himself now, much like he did for the enslaved Hebrews, much like he did between the (400?) years between the book of Malachi and the birth of John the Baptist.

hmmmmm. well me personally, i have no experience where i "felt" God.

but i do feel his presence around me always. I feel as if he watches over me.

no I have never felt up god......



but idk if i ever have, I normally shrug things off to fast

i feel god in my everday life, his presence is everywhere in my life, so yeah i have

and you guys need to stop making statements like "No, i've never felt up god" you know what he means

Tyler

id like to say i have in many cases

but i believe it to just be dreams...i believe it to be demons...my own personal demons.

other times i think i was just too drugged up where i was either hallucinating or my mind was just really really weak.

Its hard to say. I've had no real life-changing epiphanies (sp?) But neither would I say he's hiding from us. Alright so no one is rising from the dead, the seas are not splitting, but miracles can be on a smaller level.

Not yet. But I just got saved though.

I think I have had similar feelings as to those of the people who say they have felt god. I believe I have felt God's presence, in ways that aren't outright.

Yeah, I have felt God's presence in my life, in a personal way.

^^Can you explain how you know it was him? I wouldn't say it isn't him, but Muslims can claim the same thing. Who is right?

^^Can you explain how you know it was him? I wouldn't say it isn't him, but Muslims can claim the same thing. Who is right?

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nice one

I feel god a few times a week, when she's on top of me :icon_bigg

Well I can't really say I have "felt" God. I do know God has touched me when I have got really sick. Like a couple weeks ago I had a very high blood sugar and my family and I prayed that my sugar would go normal. A few minutes later I check my blood sugar and it was normal. So I guess I have had healings and somewhat felt something but I don't think I have truely felt God.

Yeah it really is silly how people think just because they sense something, they leap about a mile to the conclusion that it was god, and not only god, but "their god" that they beleive in. I think it's just to reasure themselves that god exists but they're too naive to think what else it could be. The mind works in weird ways and sometimes we sense things that aren't there and sometimes we don't, it doesn't mean that it is "god" though.

It also doesn't mean that it isn't God. I've spent a lot of time on this board arguing the logical ins and outs of proving whether God exists or doesn't exist, and it's well-established that there isn't proof either way. However, that doesn't mean that people should stop feeling any particular way they please. If it pleases a person to interpret feelings in a particular way, more power to that person. If it is part of a person's positive outlook to attach meaning to feelings, even if it isn't grounded in reality, more power to that person. Life is too difficult and too stressful to deny people the right to feel how they want to feel or to deny them the right to feel secure. So long as no one tells me or everyone else what to think or how to interpret my feelings, I'm all right with it.

It also doesn't mean that it isn't God. I've spent a lot of time on this board arguing the logical ins and outs of proving whether God exists or doesn't exist, and it's well-established that there isn't proof either way. However, that doesn't mean that people should stop feeling any particular way they please. If it pleases a person to interpret feelings in a particular way, more power to that person. If it is part of a person's positive outlook to attach meaning to feelings, even if it isn't grounded in reality, more power to that person. Life is too difficult and too stressful to deny people the right to feel how they want to feel or to deny them the right to feel secure. So long as no one tells me or everyone else what to think or how to interpret my feelings, I'm all right with it.

I feel the exact same way. And I don't mean for this thread to appear as if I am trying to do just that.

Really what I want to discuss must allow us to put aside our feelings and talk realistically.

So what you are saying is that everyone who have felt god haven't really and the reason god hasn't done sh*t the past 2000 years if because he is hiding? I guess it has to be something like that since he hasn't been doing all that much lately compared to the miracles written in the bible.

So what you are saying is that everyone who have felt god haven't really and the reason god hasn't done sh*t the past 2000 years if because he is hiding? I guess it has to be something like that since he hasn't been doing all that much lately compared to the miracles written in the bible.

Yeah it really struck me the same way. I thought, "well if God doesn't wish to be known, he must have done it before." Sure enough, he didn't talk to the Israelites for 400 years, and the years between Malachi and John the Baptist.

Yeah it really struck me the same way. I thought, "well if God doesn't wish to be known, he must have done it before." Sure enough, he didn't talk to the Israelites for 400 years, and the years between Malachi and John the Baptist.

Unless he clearly specify in the bible that he don't wish to reveal himself again since it will force belief rather than believing because you want to. We can only speculate.

I think a lot of people keep saying that's why he doesn't reveal himself. He already did back then to enlighten everyone that in fact he does exist. But now it's up to yourself if you believe or not.
He doesn't want people to believe in him out of fear they say.
(by they I mean whoever I've spoken to in person about god)

But tbh I think it's way too simple excuse for why he doesn't do anything anymore. It seems more like people trying to convince themselves that they aren't putting faith into nothing.

(Heb 1:1-2 NASB) God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways, {2} in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world.

(John 19:30 NASB) When Jesus therefore had received the sour wine, He said, "It is finished!" And He bowed His head, and gave up His spirit.

So what you are saying is that everyone who have felt god haven't really and the reason god hasn't done sh*t the past 2000 years if because he is hiding? I guess it has to be something like that since he hasn't been doing all that much lately compared to the miracles written in the bible.

Hasn't done anything? I'm sorry dude but I think you've REALLY overlooked a lot. Myself, I don't believe he's hiding at all. The reason we don't see many miricles anymore isn't because of God doing things different, but because of lack of faith in most "Christians" and lack of a lifestyle of following Jesus. I've witnessed miricles and I've heard of PLENTY more, and all having been at the name of Jesus. Not while seeking Allah, or any other God, but when declared in the name of Jesus Christ. You don't have to believe, but don't ignore evidence friend.

Hasn't done anything? I'm sorry dude but I think you've REALLY overlooked a lot. Myself, I don't believe he's hiding at all. The reason we don't see many miricles anymore isn't because of God doing things different, but because of lack of faith in most "Christians" and lack of a lifestyle of following Jesus. I've witnessed miricles and I've heard of PLENTY more, and all having been at the name of Jesus. Not while seeking Allah, or any other God, but when declared in the name of Jesus Christ. You don't have to believe, but don't ignore evidence friend.

Problem with these miracles are that they are only miracles in the eyes of those who want them to be miracles by God. Like something unlikely good happens and you can't explain your luck it has to be a miracle by God!

But I said miracles like what's written in the bible. Not small petty "miracles". I haven't seen or heard of any miracle on that scale. Which brings us to what I already said. God doesn't want people to believe because of fear. But then again why would he create Hell which is the source of this fear. But of course the bible is nothing more than writings of man inspired by God. So they might have sneaked in a lot of BS like hell. Christianity was hijacked by people in power straight off the bat.
You are right about no "real" Christians. These new born Christian politicians for example are just new born because you can't get elected for sh*t unless you believe in Jesus Christ.

Real Christians have to live like a hobo. At least the bible tells you to.

Real Christians have to live like a hobo. At least the bible tells you to.

Christians aren't supposed to live what we would call a 'rich' lifestyle, but where does it say we should be like hobos?

If you are referring to the 'eye of a needle' metaphor, that is not saying to give up everything, it is saying to be willing to give up everything, because you should look to heaven and not Earth.

^I honestly think when Jesus said this, he really meant give up everything. It's just easier to say, "well he meant just be willing to give up everything." Besides, Jesus himself was homeless, "The son of man has no place to lay his head"

^I honestly think when Jesus said this, he really meant give up everything. It's just easier to say, "well he meant just be willing to give up everything." Besides, Jesus himself was homeless, "The son of man has no place to lay his head"

Sounds like I have something more to think on. :)

Fair enough, but even if this were the case, he specifically said "if you wish to be perfect..."

I felt jeebus.

Sounds like I have something more to think on. :)

Fair enough, but even if this were the case, he specifically said "if you wish to be perfect..."

Well that settles it then. Live like a hobo.

Well that settles it then. Live like a hobo.

You want me to do something that Jesus did not command me to, saying Jesus did? I'm confused.:icon_drdo

I tried.

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NO!! no i havent

The love of money is the root of all evil, not the money itself. Some will give all they haver away, some will give all they have, in a sense, to God for His purpose. You should be a good steward of what you have been blessed with, im sure someone has heard the parable...if not; look it up.

Problem with these miracles are that they are only miracles in the eyes of those who want them to be miracles by God. Like something unlikely good happens and you can't explain your luck it has to be a miracle by God!

But I said miracles like what's written in the bible. Not small petty "miracles". I haven't seen or heard of any miracle on that scale. Which brings us to what I already said. God doesn't want people to believe because of fear. But then again why would he create Hell which is the source of this fear. But of course the bible is nothing more than writings of man inspired by God. So they might have sneaked in a lot of BS like hell. Christianity was hijacked by people in power straight off the bat.
You are right about no "real" Christians. These new born Christian politicians for example are just new born because you can't get elected for sh*t unless you believe in Jesus Christ.

Real Christians have to live like a hobo. At least the bible tells you to.
I suppose by "miracles like in the Bible" you're referring to diseases being completely healed without the interference of medicine, people getting up out of wheelchairs whole after not standing or walking for years, etc. That's EXACTLY the kind of thing I was talking about. I wasn't talking about the small stuff, though if I WAS there would be MUCH MUCH more, because plenty of mini-miracles, so to speak, have happened to me. And as far as the hobo thing, from what I can see in the Bible, the apostles did live like hobos, but not the Christians in the cities just in the church. Many had jobs where they had to stay in a certain place. Most early church meetings were in somebody's house. I don't think living like that is at all what every Christian is expected to do (and I do mean by God's standards, not mans). I have to agree with Tyler on that.

im sure i felt God. im sure he felt me too :p lol jk


not really. ive seen some things that make me thing religiously in a weird way

I suppose by "miracles like in the Bible" you're referring to diseases being completely healed without the interference of medicine, people getting up out of wheelchairs whole after not standing or walking for years, etc. That's EXACTLY the kind of thing I was talking about. I wasn't talking about the small stuff, though if I WAS there would be MUCH MUCH more, because plenty of mini-miracles, so to speak, have happened to me.

"Interference of medicine," hahahaha.

That's EXACTLY the kind of thing I was talking about. I wasn't talking about the small stuff, though if I WAS there would be MUCH MUCH more, because plenty of mini-miracles, so to speak, have happened to me.

Strange that we are not all believers then huh? Like I said mini miracles are only miracles for they who want them to be.

There have been no miracles. So God is obviously not showing his wrath at this point in time. And most I know goes for the "he doesn't want to make people believe in fear"

You know? If you were a King for example would you want people to fear your punishment or love you as their king?

Then there is this hell thing. Which I think is a man made BS story to make money. Catholics have been earning money for YEARS through the purgatory.

I Believe God made people with the power to help others so... all works of medicine and other forms of healing are made by HUMANS who God gave the power to create help for fellow man, and Jesus's job was to show people how to love others and be kind to all creatures of this earth. If you follow the teachings of all of the greats of earth, Jesus, buddha, ECT All people who have love and compassion to human.... All religion is based on compassion :P

Those who seek God will find God. Those who wanna know God, will get to know God. It all depends on your faith. If you really want to find God then it will happen.

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No, but I felt a ghost this morning.


It was about 9:30 am when I woke up. I got up and turned my radio on and then laid back down on my bed on my side. And then it felt as like someone sat down in my bed behind me(like the spring went down and it squeeked). After that I felt what felt like someone was pressing my hair down on my pillow(very litely). After that I heard a little voice, which sounded like my nephew's who is my age, so I though he was trying to scare me. When I rolled over, noone was there.

The is a true story. I sware.

No, but I felt a ghost this morning.


It was about 9:30 am when I woke up. I got up and turned my radio on and then laid back down on my bed on my side. And then it felt as like someone sat down in my bed behind me(like the spring went down and it squeeked). After that I felt what felt like someone was pressing my hair down on my pillow(very litely). After that I heard a little voice, which sounded like my nephew's who is my age, so I though he was trying to scare me. When I rolled over, noone was there.

The is a true story. I sware.

You should talk with shortys_kid. He's got lots of experience with this sort of stuff.

i ave experienced god. i have prayed long and hard and have seen him answer my prayers. i believe in him and experience him every day.

"Go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe everything I have commanded you. And remember, I am with you always, to the end of the age." Mathew 28:20 (HCSB)
Christ is still with us.

"Jesus said, 'Because you have seen Me, you have believed. Those who believe without seeing are blessed.'" John 20:29 (HCSB)
This verse appears to affirm that we aren't going to see many (if any) direct miracles. We can't assume to see any parting Red Seas or a staff turning into a snake until the return of Christ. God desires for us to believe without having to see a massive sea parted.

As far as the "feeling God" thing. Yes, I believe that I have "felt" His presence before. I do believe that emotion can often be involved and as believers we must be able to differentiate between God's direct presence and our own human emotions, especially in worship.

Yes I have. I remember once at camp I felt really close to him.

I've experienced his presence through the Holy Spirit.