Okay, from what I've heard, scientology's a big load of sh*te, but as far as this thread goes, I'll try to be unbiased.
"All bold taken from Wikipedia"

The following paragraphs are just some of the stranger practices and beleifs of scientology, don't say you weren't warned...


* A person is an immortal spiritual being (termed a thetan) who possesses a mind and a body.
* The thetan has lived through many past lives and will continue to live beyond the death of the body.
* Through the Scientology process of "auditing," people can free themselves of traumatic incidents, ethical transgressions and bad decisions which are said to collectively restrict the person from reaching the state of "Clear" and "Operating Thetan." Each state is said to represent the recovery of native spiritual abilities and to confer mental and physical benefits.
* A person is basically good, but becomes "aberrated" by moments of pain and unconsciousness.
* Psychiatry and psychology are destructive and abusive practices.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/98/Scientology_psychiatry_kills.jpg/800px-Scientology_psychiatry_kills.jpg

According to Hubbard (Inventor of scientology), some past traumas may have been deliberately inflicted in the form of "implants" used by extraterrestrial dictatorships such as Helatrobus to brainwash and control the population. Hubbard's lectures and writings include a wide variety of accounts of complex extraterrestrial civilizations and alien interventions in earthly events.


Also,
75 million years ago Xenu brought billions of people to Earth in spacecraft resembling Douglas DC-8 airliners, stacked them around volcanoes and blew them up with hydrogen bombs. Their souls then clustered together, stuck to the bodies of the living and continue to do this today. Hubbard called these clustered spirits "Body Thetans," and advanced-level Scientologists place considerable emphasis on isolating these alien souls and neutralizing their ill effects.


Silent birth, sometimes known as quiet birth, is a birthing procedure advised by L. Ron Hubbard and advocated by Scientologists in which "everyone attending the birth should refrain from spoken words as much as possible" and where "... chatty doctors and nurses, shouts to 'PUSH, PUSH' and loud or laughing remarks to 'encourage' are avoided"

Well, any thoughts on scientology are welcome, I posted this to learn more about it after all...

Phlap if I give you large sums of money can you teach me more about scientology?

as much as i'd like to say this is stupid, i can't.

some of these beliefs are some i think as well.

i think everyone has a soul. (spiritual thing, w/e) and when we die our soul moves on to the next life. ever heard of thing called a "past life"? its basically the life you lived before now.

i believe this to be real. some people are just born with amazing gifts. and i believe that souls carry different aspects from each life and bring it to the next.

so i mean, scientology can seem ridiculous when you express in a bad manner, but so can anything else in the world.


but that thing about psychiatry and psychology are just dumb. hahahaha

I find it funny that they ban psychiatry and psychology, find the won thing that would see right through the BS and call it destructive and abusive.

I take the fact that people actually buy into this Hollywood fairy tale about extraterrestrials and body snatchers as further evidence that a whole lot of people are gullible morons. It makes me feel good about myself, in a comparative way.

I live right by clearwater florida which is their main headcourtrs and they are nice people but quite strange.

"You don't get rich writing science fiction. If you want to get rich, you start a religion." -L. Ron Hubbard

I have done fairly extensive research into Scientology and I own almost all of Hubbard's major works published for the Church of Scientology. (My university library had them donated but the university was going to toss most of them out so instead they gave them to me.)

so much hate on this forum.

Scientology is a d*mn cult, even Will Smith has been lured into this. And I forgot where I read it but someone once said "that even as awesome as Will Smith is, even he can't make scientology cool"

Pretty much proof that you will bow down to anything that comforts you.

Scientology is a d*mn cult, even Will Smith has been lured into this. And I forgot where I read it but someone once said "that even as awesome as Will Smith is, even he can't make scientology cool"

Funny fact, I remember reading in the paper a while back, one of those just short tiny side articles that are just usually glanced at, that Germany was trying to outlaw Scientology in their country as they found it to be a terrorist organization. I think Germany may have gotten it right this time around.

Funny fact, I remember reading in the paper a while back, one of those just short tiny side articles that are just usually glanced at, that Germany was trying to outlaw Scientology in their country as they found it to be a terrorist organization. I think Germany may have gotten it right this time around.


you speak like the US is above nazi germany. it isn't.

^Not what I was trying to imply.

Scientology is a d*mn cult, even Will Smith has been lured into this. And I forgot where I read it but someone once said "that even as awesome as Will Smith is, even he can't make scientology cool"

don't forget the totally awesome Tom Cruise lol..

http://theunfunnytruth.ytmnd.com/
it may be long.

you speak like the US is above nazi germany. it isn't.

Just the fact that someone can say that proves your wrong.

Phlap if I give you large sums of money can you teach me more about scientology?

I sure can! (Just as soon as I figure it all out myself...)

The US may as well be Nazi Germany, only on a smaller scale.
Ever heard of Guantanamo bay?

^Not what I was trying to imply.

So what are you implying? Sounds like you hint to former mistakes Germany has made. WW2 comes to mind pretty fast.
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It's a reason people paint George W. Bush with a black mustache and swastika on his arm.

How Hitler made the people want war is awfully close to how Bush administration got the go to invade the Middle East and behead Hussein based on false accusations.
Use a crisis to manipulate the people.

I just hope things will change for the better in the coming years. USA stands for such great things even though it doesn't practice it at the moment. Hijacked by false new born Christian capitalists.

So what are you implying? Sounds like you hint to former mistakes Germany has made. WW2 comes to mind pretty fast.
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It's a reason people paint George W. Bush with a black mustache and swastika on his arm.

How Hitler made the people want war is awfully close to how Bush administration got the go to invade the Middle East and behead Hussein based on false accusations.
Use a crisis to manipulate the people.

I just hope things will change for the better in the coming years. USA stands for such great things even though it doesn't practice it at the moment. Hijacked by false new born Christian capitalists.

The ridiculousness of Scientology was the point I was trying to make and nowhere in that post did I make a comparison to my current country's government to Nazi Germany's, you decided I did that. Was there a hint of what Germany has done in the past? Yes, I'll admit that but it was completely besides the point I was trying to make.

Yes, I share your view of my country's current president but by saying that George W. Bush and his administration is a whole representation of the U.S. government is an unfair representation. I find it funny that you have criticized Christians who pick and choose the good things they like from the Bible yet you are doing the same thing right now in vice versa with the U.S. government. You have found one bad thing about my country's government and have picked it out and ignored other factors to make your argument.

Yes, I share your view of my country's current president but by saying that George W. Bush and his administration is a whole representation of the U.S. government is an unfair representation. I find it funny that you have criticized Christians who pick and choose the good things they like from the Bible yet you are doing the same thing right now in vice versa with the U.S. government. You have found one bad thing about my country's government and have picked it out and ignored other factors to make your argument.

I did the same about Germany? Germany has a mistake in it's past. I ignored all the other factors.

In coming years we will look back at the mistake the US did.

I'm not labeling the US as the army of the devil. I am just saying they are equally as bad when it comes to mistakes they did.

Oh and I am doing the same here as I do towards religion. Highlighting the dents in the shining armor.

I did the same about Germany? Germany has a mistake in it's past. I ignored all the other factors.

In coming years we will look back at the mistake the US did.

I'm not labeling the US as the army of the devil. I am just saying they are equally as bad when it comes to mistakes they did.

No, you specifically said Nazi Germany, not Germany and all the forms of government it has had in its history, just Nazi Germany, and that the U.S., implying the U.S. as a whole not just the Bush Administration, which you did not make any mention of that until later posts, was no better than Nazi Germany was. You then only used the Bush Administration when comparing the U.S. to Nazi Germany. Hence the picking and choosing what you want.

My message might come out wrong but then again it stirs up some interesting comments.

So what are you implying? Sounds like you hint to former mistakes Germany has made. WW2 comes to mind pretty fast.
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It's a reason people paint George W. Bush with a black mustache and swastika on his arm.

How Hitler made the people want war is awfully close to how Bush administration got the go to invade the Middle East and behead Hussein based on false accusations.
Use a crisis to manipulate the people.

I just hope things will change for the better in the coming years. USA stands for such great things even though it doesn't practice it at the moment. Hijacked by false new born Christian capitalists.

i'm sorry but WHAT!?

Bush went to war in fear of nuclear weapons being directed towards the US.

the US, did not want another 9/11 on our hands.

Hitler's focus was making Germany back to the Great country it use to be before WW1, because the Treaty of Versailles blamed Germany for the war and caused a hefty fine. This fine caused a depression and its citizens were dying of hunger.

following Hitler was basically their last hope. Nationalism then controlled Germany and this was the cause for the Holocaust and WW2.

Here's why Bush took us to war on Iraq:Mission accomplished! (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/19/world/middleeast/19iraq.html?_r=2&th&emc=th&oref=slogin&oref=slogin)

My message might come out wrong but then again it stirs up some interesting comments.

Words are a motherfu**. I got what you were saying nor was I really that pissed off at it, Bush's comparison to Hitler really isn't that far off. I just felt that you were trying to put words in my mouth after my first post.

i'm sorry but WHAT!?

Bush went to war in fear of nuclear weapons being directed towards the US.

the US, did not want another 9/11 on our hands.

Hitler's focus was making Germany back to the Great country it use to be before WW1, because the Treaty of Versailles blamed Germany for the war and caused a hefty fine. This fine caused a depression and its citizens were dying of hunger.

following Hitler was basically their last hope. Nationalism then controlled Germany and this was the cause for the Holocaust and WW2.

No one wants another 9/11.(Well terrorists might want it)

As far as I remember it was like investigators was sent to Iraq to look for WMD. Found none but of course that didn't help. A useless invasion had to come to life for the sake of invading! Hussein had to go for sure this time!

Bush talking about patriotism and "you support us or you support terrorism!".

Sounds the same as the nationalism Hitler was preaching.
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Words are a motherfu**. I got what you were saying nor was I really that pissed off at it, Bush's comparison to Hitler really isn't that far off. I just felt that you were trying to put words in my mouth after my first post.

I just assumed wrong and used the opportunity to compare bush and hitler for some interesting chit chat ;)

I just assumed wrong and used the opportunity to compare bush and hitler for some interesting chit chat ;)

You know what they say, when you assume you make an ass out of u and me. <SP:) :tongue:

I take the fact that people actually buy into this Hollywood fairy tale about extraterrestrials and body snatchers as further evidence that a whole lot of people are gullible morons. It makes me feel good about myself, in a comparative way.

This.

Also, Hubbard was a science fiction writer. He wasn't trying to start a religion. Who's seen the South Park Scientology episode?

This.

Also, Hubbard was a science fiction writer. He wasn't trying to start a religion. Who's seen the South Park Scientology episode?

lol MEEE!!!

You know what they say, when you assume you make an ass out of u and me. <SP:) :tongue:

Hah, my dad says that...

Update:Scientologu sees modern medicine as "bad" thay will apprently try to cure people with minerals an' water instead.

What a bunch of stupid bastards! (Yeah, I know I said I'd try and be unbiased but what the hell???)

i'm sorry but WHAT!?

Bush went to war in fear of nuclear weapons being directed towards the US.

the US, did not want another 9/11 on our hands.

Hitler's focus was making Germany back to the Great country it use to be before WW1, because the Treaty of Versailles blamed Germany for the war and caused a hefty fine. This fine caused a depression and its citizens were dying of hunger.

following Hitler was basically their last hope. Nationalism then controlled Germany and this was the cause for the Holocaust and WW2.
An interesting fact: the CIA had to change their definition of "terrorist" once the US went into Iraq, because the US fell under that definition...

and on the note of scientology, it has it's good points and and bad points like all other religions...but in this one the bad points are REALLY stupid..

i'm sorry but WHAT!?

Bush went to war in fear of nuclear weapons being directed towards the US.

the US, did not want another 9/11 on our hands.

Why hasn't he attacked North Korea?

Hitler's focus was making Germany back to the Great country it use to be before WW1, because the Treaty of Versailles blamed Germany for the war and caused a hefty fine. This fine caused a depression and its citizens were dying of hunger.

following Hitler was basically their last hope. Nationalism then controlled Germany and this was the cause for the Holocaust and WW2.

No, Hitler's goal (aside from making Germany and the Third Reich rule most of Europe and eventually the world) was to rid the world of anything that wasn't Aryan, he was a Eugenics maniac. It's also the reason he refused to have kids, he didn't want to make a child that wasn't pure in his words.

Scientology seems more like Hinduism with these "spirits and re-incarnates." Except for the bombs and Xenu =S .

I hope the other religious people in here don't take solace in thinking that Scientology is any crazier than their faith, just FYI