Hey guys, just wondering what the rules are on posting a thread to sell something.

I recently just bought a skateboard item, used it for 2 minutes, and decided it wasnt for me.

I figured before I try ebay, I'd give a forum member a chance to get a good deal on it.

Is this OK to do in the equipment section, or is it not allowed? Can I post the item for sale in my signature? This wouldnt be a repeating thing... just a one time thing.

(I checked the FAQs and couldnt find any info on selling)

Thanks for your help guys. SOrry if this is a way noob question.

- nick

Dogtown, I think we should consider this idea. On this other forum I go on, after a user has 50 or more posts, they are allowed to see the Marketplace and buy items from other members in the Marketplace, and after I think 250 posts you are allowed to sell things. For the Cafe we could adjust the numbers a bit, but it works well on the other forum.

^ i think a marketplace would be awesome.

i agree on the market place idea

there should be a rep limit too

like 3 bright greenies

I frequent another forum, called TheGearPage.net, and they have a marketplace. It works well, but keep in mind, most people are selling relatively expensive stuff ($100 pedals to $1000-2000 guitars...) and everyone there is generally in the age range of 25-50.

There is a very well respected honor system on that site, and most people pay with paypal.

I might be shooting myself in the foot here, but... here goes...

I think you might run into problems if you have SkatersCafe members trying to unload some grungy, poorly-functioning, used-and-abused bearings or trucks just to make a quick buck... it could get messy.

But, in my case, I have a pair of ALMOST new trucks that are just too wide for my board, another set that's too low, and some wheels that are just too narrrow. But all the stuff is 9.5 out of 10 condition. They're of no use to me, but for someone who's 15 an on a limited budget, they'd have a chance to get some great stuff at half off or more.

Then again, on the Gear Page, part of the code is that the Forum itself assumes ZERO responsibility for transactions gone wrong. The deal is between the members. And if the buyer recieves an item in great condition, he'll post in the "Good Sellers" section of the forum, to let everyone know that it's cool to buy from that person.

The whole Marketplace idea works well for guitars. Because whether or not a guitar is 1 day old or 30 years old, guitars increase in value, and used ones are sometimes better than new.

With skateboards and skateboard parts, you'd have to REALLY describe in detail how much you've used them, and/or abused them. Take LOTS of pictures. etc, etc.

I like this idea, we should be able to sell stuff on the forum, but the risk level is probably really high. So I would think that full bright green gems would be good, and 500 posts.

That would be a cool idea.. a section for skateboarding related stuff, then one for non skateboarding related stuff..

I agree with oldballs on the risky part. there should be a requirement on minimum number of photos from certain angles and description or something. although lots of people dont have cameras..

The forum that I go on that has the Marketplace is a guitar forum as well, and since it is a smaller community, having 50 posts means that you are pretty much a frequenting member, and the people arrange the sales themselves, kind of like Craigslist. It's not the forums responsibility if someone isn't honest about a product, but the forum provides a way for honest people to trade, which usually outweighs the bad. The people who don't go through with sales are dealt with, and I think there is a buyer reputation system kind of like eBay where you get feedback from what you sell.

Be prepared to have a bunch of pissed off kids because immature kids keep ripping people off...

Be prepared to have a bunch of pissed off kids because immature kids keep ripping people off...

Hence the fact of a rep and post requirement. The kid has gotta be a good member before he/she buys OR sells. If it's high enough of a requirement, it will hopefully keep the idiots at bay. But even with purely buying sites like eBay there will always be idiots, but there would be more of a benefit I think than a negative.

this would seriously be awesome. i would love a mrketplace. would give people a chance to sell used and new stuff. pbnation has one and it works very well.

i agree on the market place idea

there should be a rep limit too

like 3 bright greenies

I like this idea, we should be able to sell stuff on the forum, but the risk level is probably really high. So I would think that full bright green gems would be good, and 500 posts.

I would argue that a sun is a much better rep minimum..

Cuts a lot of people out of the marketplace until they get more rep.. but still.

I think the requirements should be more along the lines of:

1,440 rep points
1,000 posts
and six months registered.

1,440 rep points
1,000 posts
and six months registered.

Defiantly and by this point hopefully members will value their membership enough not to start being dis-honest and ripping off other members. We'd have to have some sort of legal contract stating something like "skaterscafe is not to be held responsible..blah blah..." that members would have to acknowledge they've read before commencing their selling/buying.

1,440 rep points
1,000 posts
and six months registered.

Yeah, that would be for selling, right? Then there should also be some sort of rep and post minimum for buying, so that immature kids won't be trying to buy something and not be committed. Like Misled User said, a legal contract sort of thing would be needed too. The public joinable forums have the checkbox you click that says you hereby agree to abide by all rules set forth by the owner and administrators of the site, etc. and I think that something like that would be useful to. That way if a user disobeys, then technically disciplinary action could be taken by admins, etc.

Where's Ray when you need him, lol ;)

EDIT: OK, I officially proposed this to my fellow CT members, so we'll see what can happen with this, guys. We'll work out any kinks beforehand, but this idea might really take off :)

Oh and, you have to take a pic and have your username on a piece of paper by it to show your legit-ness. but only like a have to have gold bar and 500 posts or something to buy...

Great.... I think of a great idea, and then I'm told I can't sell cuz I ain't got enough rep! :(

Bummer. Oh well. Maybe in like, 3 years... hahaha.

What about an exception for older posters? Like, I've got a great paying job... I don't NEED to make $20 off selling a pair of trucks. But I wanted to offer them up, to try to hook up someone younger who might not be able to afford them full price.

im sure they could probably do something about that since you brought up this whole thing. although, i was gonna mention it a while back..

Great.... I think of a great idea, and then I'm told I can't sell cuz I ain't got enough rep! :(

Bummer. Oh well. Maybe in like, 3 years... hahaha.

What about an exception for older posters? Like, I've got a great paying job... I don't NEED to make $20 off selling a pair of trucks. But I wanted to offer them up, to try to hook up someone younger who might not be able to afford them full price.

But we don't really know how old people are... Theres a guy on here whos age say 25 but is really like 15..

Yeah, there are ALWAYS exceptions that can be thrown out.
Like xXSkater14Xx said, the item your selling, plus a piece of paper with your username..
That's how they do it on ebay.

I'm sure you won't be excluded.

:)

How about I post a picture of my Driver's Liscense, and a picture of my paycheck? hahaha.

(If I did that, I think most members would be like "F#%& YOU, Oldballs, you should just BUY ME a new board!!!")

If it would be helpful, and if this thing actually gets approved, I'd be willing to make a "sticky" tutorial post on packing and shipping stuff.

I've shipped probably over 100 guitar items, to all over the USA, to norway, australia, UK, France, Brazil, Canada, etc. So I know all the ins and outs of cost, size, customs, etc.

It would be good for shippers and sellers to learn about *delivery confirmation* with the Postal Service... Costs an extra 75 cents, but it totally covers your ass when you ship something. So no one can get it, but claim they didn't...

And since alot of younger sellers probably don't have A. a paypal account or B. A Checking account, it would be good for them to learn about the safest way to send cash in the mail.

Don't think you'd have to do that much. Maybe just a pic or something? lol not a pay check or anything.

the tutorial thing would be grand if you explained all that

Still need to wait for Ray's word on this one though.

But it sounds like a great idea.

:)

man i hope this works out/!

sounds like this could help out a lot of cafe members

Still need to wait for Ray's word on this one though.

But it sounds like a great idea.

:)

I already mentioned this where us CT discuss things, so I think any discussion from Ray would most likely be there.

I already mentioned this where us CT discuss things, so I think any discussion from Ray would most likely be there.

Damn you and your amazing powers of amazingness..

and your stupid sun too..


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Hence the fact of a rep and post requirement. The kid has gotta be a good member before he/she buys OR sells. If it's high enough of a requirement, it will hopefully keep the idiots at bay. But even with purely buying sites like eBay there will always be idiots, but there would be more of a benefit I think than a negative.

I have good rep and a lot of posts, but I still posess the ability to rip someone off.

Leave the sales for sites that specialize in online transactions. I have seen too many boards become ruins due to complications with an immature audience combined with classifieds section. Whether you'd like to admit it or not, you and I both know that classifieds sections are only a liability.

If, by chance, a classifieds section is created, be sure to have a sticky with resources on how to file mail fraud, file fraud via paypal, etc.

Problem is we are dealing with a younger age group and many deals went "bad" and they ALWAYS come to me for help in setteling their issues. While I would like to add a section back then it was a PITA, now with all the members we have I can imagine it would be a nightmare.

Problem is we are dealing with a younger age group and many deals went "bad" and they ALWAYS come to me for help in setteling their issues. While I would like to add a section back then it was a PITA, now with all the members we have I can imagine it would be a nightmare.

you could make like a disclaimer that nobody from the cafe is responsible for any problems and it's all on your own..?

that would be awsome

I agree that this probably wouldn't be such a great idea for multiple reasons.

One, I can't see it being used often enough to make the liability worthwhile. What would you guys be selling? If you want to find old crap in your room just to sell you'd be better off with craigslist. Or, make some friends by being really nice and giving it away for free in the free stuff section.

Two, the average age on this forum is so low that most members wouldn't be able to utilize it without their parents money. Also, a site full of naive teenagers is a prime target for scammers. A disclaimer wouldn't help at all, people would still hold Dog Town accountable, which is not fair to him.

I'm on another forum where there is a marketplace and the same thing happened. The average age is people in their early 20's. There were disclaimers warning people that whatever happened in there is not the administrator's responsibility. You'd be surprised at the amount of people who took the time to become a respected member with the required posts and rep, only to screw a bunch of people out of their money in a short amount of time. But people still held the admin responsible, despite the disclaimers. He deleted the section immediately and only recently has he been willing to give it another try.

I know Ray already posted his thoughts on this, just thought I'd back him up so we don't have a mutiny. :tongue:

you could make like a disclaimer that nobody from the cafe is responsible for any problems and it's all on your own..?

That doesn't do anything. Another board I visit has a rule like that, doesn't stop people from *****ing and moaning because they got ripped off, primarily because they forgot to get an address, phone number, or e-mail address. They now switched to a policy where if someone complains about a transaction, both parties' classifieds access is permanently revoked no questions asked.

This sounds like a grand idea.

This sounds like a grand idea.

somebody didnt read the thread
i agree with dogtown