The Lousiana legislature is allowing intelligent design to be taught in schools; we're all doomed!


http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19926643.300

how will they teach it?
Do they teach you all about an atom then at the end of the class say, "oh by the way God made it"

Last time I checked it hasn't been proven that we were not created by some higher being.
Stop being closed minded.

Last time I checked it hasn't been proven that we were not created by some higher being.
Stop being closed minded.

if they're going to teach intelligent design i want to be taught Flying Spaghetti Monsterism as well, it's only fair.

Last time I checked it hasn't been proven that we were not created by some higher being.
Stop being closed minded.

it's not close minded
but it's completely retarted to teach that in schools, why do you think they're the only place that does ?

if they're going to teach intelligent design i want to be taught Flying Spaghetti Monsterism as well, it's only fair.

That is the truth. If my school ever tries to teach anything that is related to any god I will demand they teach us about FSM. I already know a lot but many others don't and they have the right to be saved also. I think i'm going to get a shirt and put the FSM logo on it.....


EDIT: haha 666 post in the religion section. It's like it was meant to be.

I find that odd because they're public schools so people of all different religions and cultures attend...they shouldn't be teaching that...

I find that odd because they're public schools so people of all different religions and cultures attend...they shouldn't be teaching that...
It's a southern state, the majority of people are most likely Christian so it isn't as diverse as you would like to think.

Yes, of course they should be teaching other things like that if they are going to teach anything like that at all, but how is it so bad? They can teach evolution, but why can't they teach intelligent design? That doesn't seem so right. Many people believe in intelligent design do they not? . Aren't evolution and intelligent design the two biggest theories ( correct me if I'm wrong)? Why can't they be taught in schools? Everyone should be able to know at least more possibilities than just evolution shouldn't they? I guess I just see something different.

aww crap guess who live in louisiana.

Yes, of course they should be teaching other things like that if they are going to teach anything like that at all, but how is it so bad? They can teach evolution, but why can't they teach intelligent design? That doesn't seem so right. Many people believe in intelligent design do they not? . Aren't evolution and intelligent design the two biggest theories ( correct me if I'm wrong)? Why can't they be taught in schools? Everyone should be able to know at least more possibilities than just evolution shouldn't they? I guess I just see something different.

Because intelligent design isn't science, it doesn't have any legitimate evidence besides were complex so we must have a intelligent creator. This of course is just ridiculous and is flawed as according to the theory you would have infinite number of intelligent creators to create the next complex being. Also if you don't stop at intelligent design, think of every other ridiculous theory you have to toss in to teach. Plus look at the article:

BARBARA FORREST knew the odds were stacked against her. "They had 50 or 60 people in the room," she says. Her opponents included lobbyists, church leaders and a crowd of home-schooled children. "They were wearing stickers, clapping, cheering and standing in the aisles." Those on Forrest's side numbered less than a dozen, including two professors from Louisiana State University, representatives from the Louisiana Association of Educators and campaigners for the continued separation of church and state.

Gives the impression that the church is trying to push what belongs in a church into school obviously violating separation of church and state.

Also I would like to point it doesn't matter how many people believe in intelligent design, it shouldn't be considered in a science class until their is legitimate evidence. If we went by what most people believed then schools wouldn't have been desegregated in the 60s.

Yes, of course they should be teaching other things like that if they are going to teach anything like that at all, but how is it so bad? They can teach evolution, but why can't they teach intelligent design? That doesn't seem so right. Many people believe in intelligent design do they not? . Aren't evolution and intelligent design the two biggest theories ( correct me if I'm wrong)? Why can't they be taught in schools? Everyone should be able to know at least more possibilities than just evolution shouldn't they? I guess I just see something different.

i personally don't think that you can teach intelligent design because it's a religous theory, wherareas evolution is, as Bobby Henderson put it, "logical conjecture based on overwhelming, observable evidence." if they want to teach intelligent design, then they have to teach EVERY religion's creation stories. I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that you're not allowed to teach ANY religion in public schools.

if intelligent design must be taught then in should be taught in private school religion classes, not public school science classes

it's not science

Evolution is a science.


Intelligent Design is a religion.


Separation of Church and State.

Science can be taught.
Religion can not.




That is why intelligent design can not be taught in schools.

i wonder if they're going to teach it at my school...

Aren't evolution and intelligent design the two biggest theories ( correct me if I'm wrong)?

I'll correct you since you're wrong:

1) They are not the two biggest theories
2) Intelligent Design is not a theory
3) Evolution is a scientific theory
4) They want non-science (Intelligent Design) taught in a science classroom

It's like someone wanting to teach you origami in a Calculus course, not only does it have nothing to do with math it's equivalently useless.

1. What I meant was, religion and science are two both heavily debated topics in how we were created.

2. It may not be a scientific theory, but I guess it is more of an 'idea'. That is what I meant by theory.

3. I know this. I also know this is why it should be taught in science class. I just feel that other alternatives should be taught to if they are going to teach evolution, but I see where you are coming from.

4. Yes, I do agree with you, but I also think that the alternatives should be taught, maybe not in a science classroom, but maybe in a different class.

I guess my idea at the time I posted that was that it was a step forward towards having other ideas taught in a classroom. I see though that it probably is not. I believe they should have some type of class that goes over at least the most thought of ideas of how we were created, whether they be scientific or religious.

1. What I meant was, religion and science are two both heavily debated topics in how we were created.

Right, but they want it taught as science. Why teach something that has no evidence to begin with? Right?

How would you feel if you were (hypothetically) taught Islamic math which states 1 x 5 = 123? And when taught it you were only told the answer but no evidence to back it up?

2. It may not be a scientific theory, but I guess it is more of an 'idea'. That is what I meant by theory.

Right, but a scientific theory always has evidence to back it, creationism does not.

3. I know this. I also know this is why it should be taught in science class. I just feel that other alternatives should be taught to if they are going to teach evolution, but I see where you are coming from.

I know what you're trying to say, ie: "we should teach all alternatives" - the only problem is one is not based on science or any reasonable evidence, just faith. Hence why they call it 'faith'

Remember science class? How it's based on experiments, lab tests, etc? What would you use for creationism? God created Adam & Eve and that's that! ???

4. Yes, I do agree with you, but I also think that the alternatives should be taught, maybe not in a science classroom, but maybe in a different class.

Yup, I agree, that's why they have theology/religious classes. Except they're trying to get it taught as mandatory science...which isn't fair to the other religions out there.

I support the pig monkey theory! I want it taught in schools!
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I support the pig monkey theory! I want it taught in schools!
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FSM > Pig Monkey Theory...

Well, Razz, I think I agree with you, it should not be a mandatory science and should only be taught as something people should not have to take but should be there if wanted. In my High School they have no such classes has theology but I wish they would get some.

Well, Razz, I think I agree with you, it should not be a mandatory science and should only be taught as something people should not have to take but should be there if wanted. In my High School they have no such classes has theology but I wish they would get some.

Here we have this Christianity and religion class from the get go(I think)all the way to 10th grade. Also a class called religion in 13th grade.

All mandatory unless you have good reasons not to have the class.(very few does "I'm an atheist" doesn't count)

Wow, I wish we had that. I think its fun to learn about other religions although I am Christian.

Well, Razz, I think I agree with you, it should not be a mandatory science and should only be taught as something people should not have to take but should be there if wanted. In my High School they have no such classes has theology but I wish they would get some.

Cool, then you agree with the Atheists on this.

Now swear on Jesus to me that the next time someone tries to introduce creationism as a science you'll debate them for me :)

Wow, I wish we had that. I think its fun to learn about other religions although I am Christian.

I think that Christianity and religion class made me more atheist the more I had to read and hear about all the stuff in the different religions.

I don't think anyone in my class was religious either.

Kinda sad really. Here we get to learn a lot of extra BS and we don't even want to know about that sh*t and you sit there "damn I want that class!" :p

^ Haha, and yes Razz, the next time I will debate someone who says it belongs into a science class.

I went to a catholic school, so religion class was manditory. But in grade 11 we finally got to learn about other religions. I found it REALLY interesting, even if I didn't agree with everything I heard. And that's where I first heard about what Buddhism really was and I thought it was way better than my religion so I converted. That's why I loved going to a Catholic school, we got to see what our options were.