I searched and found nothing, but wouldn't be surprised if this floated across someone else's mind. God isn't strictly one thing. Catholiscism (sp?) isn't necessarily right, nor any other religion. In a way, God is just a manifestation of energy. Everyone has their own beliefs in religion, and it'd be crazy for one to believe that the 6 billion people (and increasing) should all agree on one religion. I am starting to believe that if you follow your own religion, that will be seen as good in the eyes of God. Only a third of the people in the world are Christians (sorry if i keep talking about it, i was raised up in a Catholic family, so i know most about it), so the other 4 billion people are to burn (or remain in progetory) for an eternity because they don't follow the Bible. Please correct me if the Bible says otherwise.
But do you see my point? God, being the almighty one, you'd think He would accept other people choose to believe in what they believe. I think it would be unjust for the God the Catholics see to deny 4 billion and more to the gates of Heaven for believing in another religion.

If this is a specific religion could you please tell me?

I'm pretty sure that basically thats right.
if you don't
A.) Follow the bible
or
B.) Beg for forgiveness
the your burn in hell forever.
Stupid aint it.

The Bible does say otherwise, First Commandment, "you shall have no other gods before me."

God, being the almighty one, you'd think He would accept other people choose to believe in what they believe. I think it would be unjust for the God the Catholics see to deny 4 billion and more to the gates of Heaven for believing in another religion.
I like this point that you brought up because if you think God (in the Christian sense at least) is very similar in this sense to the horrible fascists you are taught about and most likely hate. God basically says if you are not a Christian well you can burn in forever in hell. Sound similar to Hitler, if you were a Jew well then you were going to be killed because of it. I brought up this point to =Z28= once, he didn't take to kindly to it.

I think that some sticky situations come in when talking about religion just because each one has their own set of rules that often conflict with each other. Jews believe in the same God as christians, they just don't believe "the messiah" has came yet, so they don't believe in Jesus. Yet, the Bible says that anyone who doesn't follow the bible and repent because jesus died for your sins will burn in hell. But the Jews don't believe Jesus came, but they are still following the bible (the old testament?) so who is more "right"? The people who believe a magical man born the son of god came and healed people and died for everyones sins and then rose from his grave, or the people who think that Jesus wasn't a messiah?

Thats where problems come in. With the different religions, everyone believes that they are going to heaven, afterlife, reincarnation, etc. and everyone else is going to burn in hell who doesn't believe in it.

I think faith in a higher being should be more important than having to follow strict rules of religion. I mean, just think of the fact that some Christians don't go to church regularly or follow the Bible's rules closely, yet they were baptized, received communion, and were confirmed when they were young. Are they going to hell because they don't 100% follow Gods word in the Bible, yet are still Christians and went through the Christian "rites of passage" if you will? Then there are devout Christians who follow the bible strictly. Are they "better" in gods eyes than the non devout ones, even though they are Christians just the same? Plus there are different divisions of Christianity, so what makes one better than another?

Thats where I have a problem. I think as long as someone has faith in a higher being, whether or not that faith includes a religion, it can be okay because there wouldn't be conflict about who is going to hell and who isn't, and God or what you will would judge fairly on your fate. I really don't like religion because it steps on so many people and tells them they are wrong.

When everyone's religion is saying that they are going to heaven, and are saying everyone else is going to hell, what good does it do? People are going to believe what they want to believe, and if someone elses religion tells them they are going to hell, but if their religion tells them they are going to heaven, they obviously aren't going to believe the other person. If religions were gone and people just had faith in something, or faith in the lack of something, then it would be a lot easier than having full blown religions always saying the opposite of what the other is saying.

People will believe what they want to believe in, so I don't think one can be better than another.

Thats my two cents.

the horrible fascists you are taught about and most likely hate.

i dont hate anyone. no particular group, and no particular person. ive never actually felt hate in my life. like i mean i understand hitler was a horrible horrible person, but i cant comprehend into personal feelings what he did.

and IFTL very nice point

i dont hate anyone. no particular group, and no particular person. ive never actually felt hate in my life. like i mean i understand hitler was a horrible horrible person, but i cant comprehend into personal feelings what he did.

and IFTL very nice point

Alright, that was why I put "most likely."

Why would believing in any "god" be put before not belieiving in a god at all?

God's nasty anyway, putting most of the population of earth in hell. Which helps me to decide that I'm glad I took the decision not to take part in any religion. I'd rather go to hell then meet god, because god doesn't sound very nice at all and I'm against most things he wants anyway, we wouldn't get along.

Why would believing in any "god" be put before not belieiving in a god at all?

God's nasty anyway, putting most of the population of earth in hell. Which helps me to decide that I'm glad I took the decision not to take part in any religion. I'd rather go to hell then meet god, because god doesn't sound very nice at all and I'm against most things he wants anyway, we wouldn't get along.

Well, in fairness that is only the Christian, Judaism, Islamic "god." In Hinduism followers believe in reincarnation and that you slowly move up in the world through each life until you reach moksha and exist with Brahman. No hell in there.

Buddhism is sort of similar in the sense that you reincarnate until you become enlightenment and reach nirvana. Though there aren't technically gods in Buddhist beliefs though believers do have some or as close as you can get to gods.

Why would believing in any "god" be put before not belieiving in a god at all?

God's nasty anyway, putting most of the population of earth in hell. Which helps me to decide that I'm glad I took the decision not to take part in any religion. I'd rather go to hell then meet god, because god doesn't sound very nice at all and I'm against most things he wants anyway, we wouldn't get along.

See, that is the Christian god that would put you in hell if you don't believe, so thats what scares a lot of people off from religion. Because Christianity happens to be one of the most popular religions in the world, many people don't know about other religions and what those can do. Like bbengyak said, some ther religions don't have heaven or hell, it could be something like being born into a higher caste, or class, in hindu society, or it could be the release from the cycle of rebirth in buddhism, etc.

Religion seems to mess everything up with its rules, thats why I prefer just faith, or lack of faith, in something.

I've heard that Sikhs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikhism) believe everyone is on different paths to the same destination, so they respect the belief systems of others and do not force their own on others.

Maybe all the religions are "right" in a sense, and the afterlife is whatever you believe it to be, but in reality it's nothing more than a figment of your imagination. Or maybe once we die we are left floating in an everlasting pit of darkness, I mean it could go either way.

cant say for sure, I'm not religious, but neither can you, or anuone, we all just have theories

Yea I think all religions are right. I mean, they all have similarities and stuff. It wouldn't be fair for only one religion to be right.

I think since a lot of the different faiths out there conflict with each other that they can't all be trails to the top of the mountain. I don't see how they could all be right..

I would hope that if there was a god, he would judge you on the life you led, the things youv done, and the people youv effected rather than if you wasted all your time sitting in a building singing him songs. But the bible tells me hes selfish and hateful, so i doubt it.
One of his big rules was not to believe in anyone besides him, or hel make you suffer for eternity.

Yea I think all religions are right. I mean, they all have similarities and stuff. It wouldn't be fair for only one religion to be right.

It wouldn't be fair? LOL

In a way I see what you mean, why would God let one group of believers in and not the other, especially when neither religion has a single piece of evidence to back it up.

Probably because none of them are true.

Yea I think all religions are right. I mean, they all have similarities and stuff. It wouldn't be fair for only one religion to be right.

You know what else wouldn't be fair?

That I was born into sin because 2 dimwits 6000 years ago f*cked up.

That a non religious presidential candidate have no chance at winning in a country that supposedly supports separation of church and state.

etc etc

Ya know, my grandparents are catholic, parents christian.

But this stuff is so confusing, I'm working my own stuff out know.

all positive religons are good no matter what each person worships, each person is made differently thus seek different religons at times

I searched and found nothing, but wouldn't be surprised if this floated across someone else's mind. God isn't strictly one thing. Catholiscism (sp?) isn't necessarily right, nor any other religion. In a way, God is just a manifestation of energy. Everyone has their own beliefs in religion, and it'd be crazy for one to believe that the 6 billion people (and increasing) should all agree on one religion. I am starting to believe that if you follow your own religion, that will be seen as good in the eyes of God. Only a third of the people in the world are Christians (sorry if i keep talking about it, i was raised up in a Catholic family, so i know most about it), so the other 4 billion people are to burn (or remain in progetory) for an eternity because they don't follow the Bible. Please correct me if the Bible says otherwise.
But do you see my point? God, being the almighty one, you'd think He would accept other people choose to believe in what they believe. I think it would be unjust for the God the Catholics see to deny 4 billion and more to the gates of Heaven for believing in another religion.

If this is a specific religion could you please tell me?

Hi Oprah!

(incase you haven't seen it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwGLNbiw1gk)

The lady in the audience.. has the Holy Spirit, that is it workin right there.

^ Great argument there Z28! I would also suggest posting a couple of Biblical quotes next time to hit those facts hard, and maybe some idiot will be convinced!

^ Great argument there Z28! I would also suggest posting a couple of Biblical quotes next time to hit those facts hard, and maybe some idiot will be convinced!

my dear friend. you have been mistaken. there is nothing to debate or argue.

my dear friend. you have been mistaken. there is nothing to debate or argue.

He's right, it's been clarified =Z28= is mentally ill already. OOOOH BURNED!!! +1 for me.:p

I think that some sticky situations come in when talking about religion just because each one has their own set of rules that often conflict with each other. Jews believe in the same God as christians, they just don't believe "the messiah" has came yet, so they don't believe in Jesus. Yet, the Bible says that anyone who doesn't follow the bible and repent because jesus died for your sins will burn in hell. But the Jews don't believe Jesus came, but they are still following the bible (the old testament?) so who is more "right"? The people who believe a magical man born the son of god came and healed people and died for everyones sins and then rose from his grave, or the people who think that Jesus wasn't a messiah?

Thats where problems come in. With the different religions, everyone believes that they are going to heaven, afterlife, reincarnation, etc. and everyone else is going to burn in hell who doesn't believe in it.

I think faith in a higher being should be more important than having to follow strict rules of religion. I mean, just think of the fact that some Christians don't go to church regularly or follow the Bible's rules closely, yet they were baptized, received communion, and were confirmed when they were young. Are they going to hell because they don't 100% follow Gods word in the Bible, yet are still Christians and went through the Christian "rites of passage" if you will? Then there are devout Christians who follow the bible strictly. Are they "better" in gods eyes than the non devout ones, even though they are Christians just the same? Plus there are different divisions of Christianity, so what makes one better than another?

Thats where I have a problem. I think as long as someone has faith in a higher being, whether or not that faith includes a religion, it can be okay because there wouldn't be conflict about who is going to hell and who isn't, and God or what you will would judge fairly on your fate. I really don't like religion because it steps on so many people and tells them they are wrong.

When everyone's religion is saying that they are going to heaven, and are saying everyone else is going to hell, what good does it do? People are going to believe what they want to believe, and if someone elses religion tells them they are going to hell, but if their religion tells them they are going to heaven, they obviously aren't going to believe the other person. If religions were gone and people just had faith in something, or faith in the lack of something, then it would be a lot easier than having full blown religions always saying the opposite of what the other is saying.

People will believe what they want to believe in, so I don't think one can be better than another.

Thats my two cents.

Before Jesus died on the cross, to be forgiven of our sins we had to sacrifice animals. Jesus then gave himself as a the perfect sacrifice so that our sins would be covered forever. Following this, Christians can pray to God for forgiveness and it is always granted if we mean it because God already made the sacrifice to save us from our sin. Jesus died on the cross knowing that many would reject him but he didn't it anyhow because he loved us that much and didn't want us to have an eternity in hell.

He also died on the cross to make it possible for us to join him in the afterlife in heaven. He gave us guidelines(The Bible) to keep us from hurt or going through pain. If he loved us so much then why would he give us guidelines that would be bad for us. Same thing as when a loving parent gives a child guidelines. It isn't because they want there child to have no life but because they want to protect there child from danger, hurt, imprisonment, etc.... Same thing with Jesus. He loved us so he gave us the Bible to go by for answers. If he died on the cross for us because he loved us so much then why would his plan for each of our lives not be the best for us.

If a person accepts Jesus Christ into their heart, Jesus goes into their soul to dwell forever and the person will go to heaven...unless he (except selling the soul) and is living a sinful life but they are still going to heaven. Although a true Christian once experiencing the grace and love of God would not continue their previous pathway in life.
On the other hand the person who attends church regularly, lives by the Bible, etc....is still going to heaven and they will have a closer relationship with God and could possibly experience more blessings than the person who isn't living right.
Christianity isn't some kind of cult for people who think they are worthy enough to go to heaven while others who aren't worthy enough go to hell. Christians are people just like you and me but the difference is that they have opened their hearts to God's grace. Christians know that they aren't better than anybody else and the reason why they are on this forum is because they want others to open their heart to the love and grace that Jesus offers.

Hail Satan!

Z28 youre so wrong

Before Jesus died on the cross, to be forgiven of our sins we had to sacrifice animals.
So because we ****ed up we had to kill innocent animals instead of receiving any sort of punishment ourselves?

So because we ****ed up we had to kill innocent animals instead of receiving any sort of punishment ourselves?

I don't think you would enjoy cutting apart an animal. That would be enough punishment for me.

I don't think you would enjoy cutting apart an animal. That would be enough punishment for me.
I don't think you'd enjoy getting cut up because of what somebody else did.