A lot of people have a hard time understanding which tricks are which in the world of freestyle/flatland skateboarding. Here are the basics:

1.) There is no such thing as a reemo slide, a rusty slide, or a "sproing" slide. These names were all made up by Tony Hawk's skateboarding games, and aren't really trick names.

2.) A "primo" is only a primo if you are moving. If you are rolling, then slip into the primo slide position and slide with your board sideways, it's a primo slide. There are two ways to do this trick: a.) Toe-Side. This is what you probably used to call a "reemo." Your wheels will be pointed in the same direction as your heels. b.) Heel-side. This is what you probably used to call a "primo." Your wheels will be pointed in the same direction as your toes.

This trick was invented by Primo Desiderio, thus comes it's name.

3.) A "primo" while not moving is simply called a railstand. As shown above, you can do railstands TS (toe side) or HS (heel side.)

4.) A casper MUST have no foot touching the ground. If your front foot is touching the ground, you're doing the trick wrong, and it's not a casper.

5.) A "truckstand" is actually called a no-handed 50-50. This trick was named before the grind. You have one foot on the truck, and the other usually below the grip, just like a casper on your trucks. A truckstand is accepted a lot more than saying "reemo" or "rusty slide" however.

6.) You'll oftentimes hear freestylers refer to manuals as "wheelies." That's because manuals used to be called wheelies. A manual was actually when someone ollied out of a quarter pipe, wheelied across the deck, and dropped back in. Now many freestylers only call it a manual if you ollie into it. Manual is still alright, though.

7.) A "coconut wheelie" is probably a trick you're not familiar with. It looks just like a primo slide, but only your wheels are touching the ground, not the deck itself.

8.) A classic flip is just an old-school kickflip.

9.) A casper done on the nose of your board is called a nose casper. An anti-casper is actually a half impossible to nose casper.

Those are some basics on freestyle trick names. These were written so you might understand what on earth people are talking about when they go raddle off names like the ones stated above. If you still want to call a wheelie a manual, or a 50-50 a truckstand, that's fine. Don't whine about liking new names better, this is just to help you understand trick names better. You can also post your own questions on trick names here. Hope that helps!! :)

this is awesome finally people will know the difference between primo and rail stand..

Actually, I heard that it's only called a manual if you ollie onto or down something to wheelie. Everything else flatland is called a wheelie.
And an anti-casper is when you do any flip at all to nose casper, not just a half impossible.
And I accept a casper if your foot is at least 80% on the board. I don't mind just a smidgen of the side of your foot hanging off as that was what I did for the longest time.

^A.) That's what I meant, my bad.
B.) Really? I believe Tony Gale said it was just a half impossible. Oh well, I'll take your word for it.
C.) No, I'm talking about your front foot being on the ground. As in the way those goofy kids like to show off.

I remember Callum saying that any flip to nose casper would make it an anti-casper. Like, I do half varial pressure flips to nose casper. Would that make it anti-casper? I like to think so.

Ah yes, I'm so used to thinking it without the foot on the ground that I misinterpreted what you said. Yes, no front foot on the ground. It's cheating. But if you have fun doing it, don't let what we say stop you.

^Yep yup. I guess you're right about the any flip to nose casper...I just didn't know about that. I do ollie varial half flips to nose casper, so I guess that's an anti-casper. Now, would that be called a half varial flip to anti-casper, or just an anti-casper?

Now, would that be called a half varial flip to anti-casper, or just an anti-casper?

{hu) Good question.

i think it would be a half varial flip to anti-casper

Very nice Daniel, this will help out a LOT of people! Thanks for adding this here, I'll sticky this for you.
I just have one correction for you:

5.) A "truckstand" is actually called a no-handed 50-50.

That's the one mistake I found. A truckstand is actually a 50-50, a No handed 50-50 is when you don't use your hand at all to get into the 50-50, but rather you flip the board up with your feet instead of using your hand.
Other than that, perfecto my friend, we shoudl add some more terms in here as time goes by!
Keep it up guys!

^Fair enough...I don't ever really use my hands for getting into 50-50's, but I see your point. I think that almost all people consider a truckstand a no handed 50-50 don't they? I've never seen someone do a one handed one and call it a truckstand, but I see what you're saying.

Yeah, and people can come and ask questions about trick names here as well.

Hurray!! My first sticky!! (I think.)

A truckstand is actually a 50-50

But I thought the term 'truckstand' was made up by Tony Hawks Pro Skater and in the game, you do a nh 5050, so I don't know about just a 5050.

truckstand was probably made up by the Tony Hawk games, in order to distinguish the Freestyle 50-50 from the grind. Now as for the hand thing. A lot of people learn to get into 50-50's using their hands at first to elarn the balance, and it's since evolved into it's own trick. the No Handed 50-50 you guys are talkign about has since become exactly that. A no handed 50, so just for the sake of those beginning in freestyle, there's a clear distinguishment between 50-50's and no handed 50's. If I had a camera I could get clips of each,. but sadly mine doesn't work. Maybe Nathan or Sarge could get clips of them though >_>

the 50-50 stand was an trick invented by Steve Rocco I think in 1979. It involves flipping the board halfway and landing on the trick while catching the nose with the hand, then flipping it half way again back to a normal stance. (hince the 50/50 thing).

Rodney invented the nohanded version of the 50/50 stand in the early 80's...fairly close to the same time he invented caspers.

Truckstand is another name that THPS has used to ruin skateboarding vocabulary.

..and sarge is at college right now and has no camera

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Hurray!! My first sticky!! (I think.)[/QUOTE]

this might sound stupid but, what the heck is a sticky?

It's where your thread remains at the top of the sub-forum. Only a mod can sticky a thread.


Yeah, Tony W. has a point, the "truckstand" done in THPS games is a no handed 50-50...so that's why I called it that. Oh well!

The other freestyle forum is back up www.wfsafreestyle.org/forum

If anyone cares............

Yeah, but I'm still waiting for the new F-forum to be back up. And that forum was up for a while and I didn't even know!

a forum with bob in control......right

thanks daniel for telling me whats what

I'll add another one here, 'cause some questions have come up.


Monkey Flip- While riding, reaching down and grabbing the side of the board indy-style, jumping, and pulling up, flipping the board with your hand. You should then land on the board after the completed flip, and ride away.

i thought that was something like a indie flip or something

It's not only in the indy grab stance. You can also grab between your legs on the heel side edge and flip it.

It sounds like you all are talking about earlygrabs and earlygrabflips.

Interesting.

An indy flip is an ollie, and then a monkey flip.

An early grab flip, as you call them, are done off of ramps, eh?

ugghh

an Indy is a grab on the toeside rail while doing a backside air on a ramp. Just cause your grabbing the toe rail doesnt make it a indy grab

Your basically doing a handflip.

That's why I don't call it an indy grab, but an indy grab stance :)

thanks... im getten sick of ppl saying i can primo- when the do it i just kick the board n they fall

^That's stupid, man. Don't be mean to a kid 'cause he doesn't know his stuff, just teach him. I used to call them primo's back when I was stupid, but someone pointed out the right way to me nicely and I figured it out. Don't beat up little kids.

agh, too much, as long as my friends know what i'm talking about i think i will be OK

agh, too much, as long as my friends know what i'm talking about i think i will be OK

Lol, I sorta agree. Isn't it weird how the original names of tricks eventually get morphed into such stranger names?

Well, I personally prefer ollie kickflip than 'magic flip', don't you? :)

i really like the name magicflip, they should have just kept that name

i really like the name magicflip, they should have just kept that name
I'm starting to say magic flip now.

Also what is a pogo when you don't hop? I was thinking about starting a new thread, but i thought this was a better spot.

A 5050 stand.

^Thanks i thought it was only concidered a 5050 if your board was in a pogo like stance, but more horizonal.

5050 is just short for 5050 stand :)

wow lol that made my freestyle world brighter. i calles tuff reemo and rusty slide. lol thx daniel

Look at what have the Tony Hawks games have done to freestyle (well at least it's in the games).

hey, is there a name for when your in a 5050 you fingerflip it like a kickflip rotation and land back in 5050?

that would be a fan flip.

are pressure flips freestyle?

they can be anything you want them to be. if you do them whilst freestyling they are freestyle, if you are doing themwhilst skating street, then they are street, if you do them skating ramp....etc

A lot of people have a hard time understanding which tricks are which in the world of freestyle/flatland skateboarding. Here are the basics:

1.) There is no such thing as a reemo slide, a rusty slide, or a "sproing" slide. These names were all made up by Tony Hawk's skateboarding games, and aren't really trick names.

2.) A "primo" is only a primo if you are moving. If you are rolling, then slip into the primo slide position and slide with your board sideways, it's a primo slide. There are two ways to do this trick: a.) Toe-Side. This is what you probably used to call a "reemo." Your wheels will be pointed in the same direction as your heels. b.) Heel-side. This is what you probably used to call a "primo." Your wheels will be pointed in the same direction as your toes.

This trick was invented by Primo Desiderio, thus comes it's name.

3.) A "primo" while not moving is simply called a railstand. As shown above, you can do railstands TS (toe side) or HS (heel side.)

4.) A casper MUST have no foot touching the ground. If your front foot is touching the ground, you're doing the trick wrong, and it's not a casper.

5.) A "truckstand" is actually called a no-handed 50-50. This trick was named before the grind. You have one foot on the truck, and the other usually below the grip, just like a casper on your trucks. A truckstand is accepted a lot more than saying "reemo" or "rusty slide" however.

6.) You'll oftentimes hear freestylers refer to manuals as "wheelies." That's because manuals used to be called wheelies. A manual was actually when someone ollied out of a quarter pipe, wheelied across the deck, and dropped back in. Now many freestylers only call it a manual if you ollie into it. Manual is still alright, though.

7.) A "coconut wheelie" is probably a trick you're not familiar with. It looks just like a primo slide, but only your wheels are touching the ground, not the deck itself.

8.) A classic flip is just an old-school kickflip.

9.) A casper done on the nose of your board is called a nose casper. An anti-casper is actually a half impossible to nose casper.

Those are some basics on freestyle trick names. These were written so you might understand what on earth people are talking about when they go raddle off names like the ones stated above. If you still want to call a wheelie a manual, or a 50-50 a truckstand, that's fine. Don't whine about liking new names better, this is just to help you understand trick names better. You can also post your own questions on trick names here. Hope that helps!! :)
crap, I do coconut wheelies alot when I land wrong.well, at least now I have a name when I do it.

^I can assure you that you don't. Coconut wheelies are some of the harder tricks around - and they're damn near impossible without offset wheels (but not quite impossible).

~Necro

I prob just thinking wrong.I land and go about three foot on the two side wheels before I fall and faceplant.

Thats cool im getting into freestlye. Gonna focus on that alot more.

thanks for the thread it helped alot

i was on you tube and typed in primo and it had a bunch of kids fliping thier boards sideways and standing on the rail,what the trick tip section in the group calls a rail stand.i jsut want to make sure a primo is a rail stand but moving rite?

^^ yea, a primo is a railstand that slides, a railstand standing still is a railstand

yeah thanks i always called sliding while in truckstand was primo slide and standing on the wheels with toes and wheels same direction was called primo

can ur foot hit ground quickley when getting into rail stand?

No, it can't.

hey everybody. I could have sworn that a "one-footed ollie" was the exact same thing as an Ollie North. My friend didn't think so. Am I right?

Yes they are the same trick, and both names are acceptable for it, meaning THPS did not make up that name. It is a regional differance.

No, an ollie north is an ollie one foot.

A one footed ollie is an ollie using one foot (think no comply with no front foot plant, you just take it off to the side).

Anyone have tips for the ollie one foot?

My stubborn friends keep calling a rail stand a primo :( Then my dorky friend alex says "Dude, its a rail stand if your ballencing the board on its wheels, and a primo when the board is flat sideways."

Thank you for explaining the differences of a primo and a rail stand. I'm gonna have to refer them to this website.

just remember

P - primos
R - r
I - in
M - Motion
O - only
S - sliding

haha, almost made somthing super genius up.. =)

OwnageKingX - a primo is a railstand while moving. When you balance on only the wheels, it's called a coco wheelie (when you're moving - I guess you could call a non moving coco wheelie a stationary coco, but no one really does that trick). A railstand is where you're standing on the side of the board, with your feet on the wheels, and you weight is on the side of the board (the rail - hence the name).

~Necro

um i have 2 questions

1. when you go outta primo by flipping is it a primo flip or primo to rail flip

2. i do coconut wheelies by applying pressure on the toeside when i turn so when i cocnut wheelie i go in arc. Is this counted as a cocunut wheelie?because when i watch videos of people doing them they go straight.

1. when you go outta primo by flipping is it a primo flip or primo to rail flip
Do you mean out of a primoslide (and you're not just misusing the word primo for a railstand)? If so, I'd say primoslide railflip out, myself.
2. i do coconut wheelies by applying pressure on the toeside when i turn so when i cocnut wheelie i go in arc. Is this counted as a cocunut wheelie?because when i watch videos of people doing them they go straight.
Don't worry about it. Most people carve round in coconut wheelies to begin with; the subtle and instinctive ankle control you need to keep them straight comes with practice. You're still doing coconut wheelies, just you're not going to be able to do much with them yet if they're still carving round.

On a side note, I remember when coconut wheelies were a pretty high-end trick; now, it seems they're getting more popular by the minute. I have a lot of respect for people that can do them, actually. They're not the easiest thing to learn, so nice one, Sk8te Flip. Go buy yourself a drink and pretend it was on me. :icon_clap

ok thanx mayfair for the advice
and i know the difference between primo slide and railstand
is there such thing as a liberty stand or is it some random junk from Tony hawk games or drunken hobos

I've never even heard the term liberty stand, so I'm fairly certain it's total trash. What does the trick look like?

someone informed me that toeside railstands are actually called liberty stands in a comment on one of my trick tips. I don't think I've ever even seen that in THPS, so I have no idea where it came from...

Sk8te Flip - From your description you're not doing a coco wheelie. It seems like you're not actually standing on the wheels, your feet are still on the griptape, but you're just applying pressure to the toeside edge, lifting the board onto two wheels.

That's what your description sounds like - maybe I'm wrong?

~Necro

Necro, coconut wheelies DO curve for most people to begin with, so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. I don't think you can really confuse coconut wheelies with siderides.

^I'm sure you can. He says he applies pressure to the TOESIDE edge of the board. Nothing about standing on the wheels. And curve for sure, but go around in a circcle? I don't now about that man.

~Necro

I did that too! man I felt stupid when Daniel corrected me!

... Man, I obviously seriously underestimated the stupidity of some of you guys.

I stand corrected, it is apparently easy to confuse a trick where you stand on the wheels with one where you stand on the grip tape. Apparently.

well, it was defiend to me as riding on the side two wheels, so...

i'm terribly sorry about the confusion
yer i was doing those siderides

Hey, whats it called when you do a flatground fingerflip and it spind like a heelflip?

^^ Early grab fingerflip ?

fingerflips normally flip like a heelflip.

truth. They're just fingerflips. Infact, whether you spin it heelflip or kickflip, they're both fingerflips, but you'll sometimes hear the kickflip ones called 'reverse fingerflips' or 'inwards fingerflips'

nice finally know some grammar in freestyle

oh ok. i understand now. a railstand is stationary and a primo or primo slide is moving. ok. thanks guys.

Sweet! Glad theres a thread like this for beginner freestylers.
Pretty soon, im gonna attempt to do a half-flip truckstand slide haha ive never seen or heard of anyone doing it...but ima try it and record it...and fall, whenever I find a smooth place to wax the crap out of.

freestyle is the most original style of skating and set the fundamentals for street skating

freestyle is the most original style of skating and set the fundamentals for street skating
I think everybody knows that,Nathan

whats a monkey manual? i saw that somewhere yesterday and was wondering what it was

Never heard of it. A monkey FLIP is grabbing the board like an indy and flipping it without any pop.

i always tell my friends all this stuff

really helpful page, to do some swatting :D thx for sharing

Rodney invented the nohanded version of the 50/50 stand in the early 80's...fairly close to the same time he invented caspers.


Maybe not much point in bringing this up so much later, but Rodney didn't invent caspers, and though I'm not sure I doubt he invented 50/50s.

Caspers were invented by Bobby "Casper" Boyden, nicknamed that because he was really pale. He also invented the Casper Disaster, and from what I hear he was also the first to stand in rail.

But I think Rodney invented the 360 flip out of caspers.

^^ i beleive the casper disaster was invented when he messed up a rollin casper and his buddy said that could have been a disaster.

What is a single kick? I hear it all the time, but im not sure what they are exactly. Also are there double kicks or something? Im guessing its something that has to do with the shape or style of the board?

^^ i beleive the casper disaster was invented when he messed up a rollin casper and his buddy said that could have been a disaster.
i thought that was Dr. Skateboard
Merging doublepost
What is a single kick? I hear it all the time, but im not sure what they are exactly. Also are there double kicks or something? Im guessing its something that has to do with the shape or style of the board?
a single kick is a type of board that has a tail with a flat nose and no concave

4.) A casper MUST have no foot touching the ground. If your front foot is touching the ground, you're doing the trick wrong, and it's not a casper.

rodney mullen do some casperslide touching the ground :S

Really helped me

but one lil' question:What is an edge (trick,of course)???

^^Never heard of it.

punkybambi, I don't really see how that is possible? I've never seen one with the foot touching the ground, even for a second. Perhaps I missed it.

^
i do casper slides touching the ground too i think :S

^
i do casper slides touching the ground too i think :S

The foot touching would throw you more off balance than the trick itself (and the trick takes mad balance). It might even stick to the floor and you fall forward.

I need to see it. Even if you can do it (theoretically I guess you can), it wouldn't be a proper casper slide.

^The casper slides are sooo hard. I've landed a few, takes a lot of leaning back but I'd say the hardest part is flipping out. I have no idea how Rodney has a 360 flip out and other variations.

OK, so if anyone can be bothered, take a look at these two clips (from the 5-a-day thread) and skip to the time shown.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbqfKufJ774 @ 00:14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlvkEMCTc-8 @ 00:49

I really like that piece of footwork and was curious if it had a name...

^The only name I've heard for it is a 'machete' which came from Tyler Self who heard it from Bob Asthon.

finally now kids will know the real names of tricks!:icon_bigg

^The only name I've heard for it is a 'machete' which came from Tyler Self who heard it from Bob Asthon.

Ya I've heard Gokey call them machete's too.

Ya I've heard Gokey call them machete's too.

Yeah, I've started calling them that now as well. Funny how things work out:tongue:

Actually guys, I just skated with Bob today, and I must have misheard him when he called the trick a machete. A 'machete' is actually a spacewalk where your feet are together. The footwork trick I thought it was, it's name escapes me right now, but it had something to do with a knife. :P

Sorry guys, my fault.

Actually guys, I just skated with Bob today, and I must have misheard him when he called the trick a machete. A 'machete' is actually a spacewalk where your feet are together. The footwork trick I thought it was, it's name escapes me right now, but it had something to do with a knife. :P

Sorry guys, my fault.

lol, good going Tyler! Now the whole Freestyling world is confused and its all your fault! Is there no end to your madness!?!