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    Quote Originally Posted by someguy14 View Post
    Padre Pio was practicing that back in the 1920's haha.
    Since we had supercolliders back then and everything...
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    Just throwing it in there but did that particle moved faster than light in a vacuum?
    The whole theory is based that particles can't move faster than light in a vacuum.

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    It's not like going faster than light is easier with added air resistance. A vacuum is just optimal because there is the lowest amount of resistance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baller View Post
    It's not like going faster than light is easier with added air resistance. A vacuum is just optimal because there is the lowest amount of resistance.
    I agree but what if there is some influence so the material is pulled to something (like a north pole gets pulled towards a south pole.)
    wouldn't that make the material go faster?

    anyways its pretty fascinating that it did go faster than light!

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    It's possible I guess but there's no known force that would effect photons like that. And even if there was it would still apply in a vacuum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baller View Post
    It's possible I guess but there's no known force that would effect photons like that. And even if there was it would still apply in a vacuum.

    I'm a strong believer in occam's razor.
    In that case, which is more likely, that we have got it nailed already or that the human idea of physics is not entirely complete...

    I think it would be pretty arrogant (but not atypical as humans, still wrestling with our place in the universe) of us to assume the former, but much more simple, and therefore likely to go with the latter, no matter how unpalatable it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baller View Post
    It's possible I guess but there's no known force that would effect photons like that. And even if there was it would still apply in a vacuum.

    I'm a strong believer in occam's razor.
    Well in a vacuum there is nothing what could effect a photon( in my thought atleast, unless there is still something in a vacuum what we don't know about ) in a not vacuum area there could be anything what could effect a photon.

    Just out of interest but does a north pole inside a vacuum area still atract a south pole ouside that vacuum?

    (I say it will if you think about stars attracting each other while theres vacuum between them)
    ^^ with that idea in our head is it possible forces outside of the CERN experiment might have effected the photon even if the experiment took place in vacuum?

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    Correction it was actually a muon neutrino, I was just thinking photon because we were talking about the speed of light.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robby_Ronal View Post
    Well in a vacuum there is nothing what could effect a photon( in my thought atleast, unless there is still something in a vacuum what we don't know about ) in a not vacuum area there could be anything what could effect a photon.

    Just out of interest but does a north pole inside a vacuum area still atract a south pole ouside that vacuum?

    (I say it will if you think about stars attracting each other while theres vacuum between them)
    ^^ with that idea in our head is it possible forces outside of the CERN experiment might have effected the photon even if the experiment took place in vacuum?
    What about GRAVITY?

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    ^Photons don't have mass and a neutrino has such a tiny mass gravity is basically negligible. Gravity is far weaker on a quantum level than the other 3 forces.
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    Can't gravity bend light? AKA photons? If not then they could escape black holes..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robby_Ronal View Post
    (I say it will if you think about stars attracting each other while theres vacuum between them)
    the attractive force is gravitational and therefore non-polar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoSwitch View Post
    Can't gravity bend light? AKA photons? If not then they could escape black holes..
    Kind of. Super massive objects cause ripples in the fabric of space-time which is what we call gravity. So it's more like the space-time around these objects is stretched out which we see as light curving (such as around our sun). But gravity only exerts a force on objects with mass.

    And like I said it was actually a neutrino, in a vacuum a photon already has a velocity of c.
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    I read that sun article on the LHC again and it made me grouchy. I have a rudimentary understanding of blackholes at best and I know the doomsday bull**** they were going on about is complete garbage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donovan View Post
    I read that sun article on the LHC again and it made me grouchy. I have a rudimentary understanding of blackholes at best and I know the doomsday bull**** they were going on about is complete garbage.
    All of that got me pretty mad too. Every news outlet was chiming in "Large Hadron Collider= The End of Days?!" Stupid sensationalist garbage, great that the media does all this research on their stories.
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